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Matrix/video technology theories; by pallysmom, 2006/07/08
Topic Started: Sunday Nov 9 2008, 11:19 PM (109 Views)
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From: pallysmom (Original Message) Sent: 7/8/2006 9:46 AM
I really enjoyed the theories of HenryNMac/HenryRMac on the other boards.
henryrmac gave permission for them to be discussed here
and expressed a wish that they not be erased.

http://groups.msn.com/SecondChancesTheLUMI...579697455729789

http://groups.msn.com/SecondChancesTheLUMI..._Message=222928

Copy of henrynmac's theory from the other site...

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My video technology theory ,,,,,,,,
« Thread Started on Jan 10, 2006, 10:08pm »
posted by HenryNMac
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first ,,,,,, this is my first post ,,,,,,, be gentle ,,,,,

just let me say ,,,,,,, this is a theory ,,,,,, no spoiler ,,,,,, only my theory on what is going on ,,,,,,, this doesn't involve hocus pocus or magic ,,,,,,, it involves real technology that is available to most people ,,,,,, and photo editing programs and that you guys are so very good a using ,,,,,,, to make you wonderful banners ,,,,,,, only done with digital video,,,,,

we have seen evidence on the show that many characters ,,,,,,, are experts with these programs ,,,,,,, even Marlena knew how to erase herself off John's video surveillance equipment tapes or digital recordings ,,,,,,,, and Jan used video cameras or video recorder ,,,,,,, to tape Mimi and Rex making love ,,,,,, then changed the people to make it Belle and Phillip ,,,,,,, in order to convince Shawn Belle moved on without him ,,,,,,,

the serial killer taped or recorded himself killing Maggie ,,,,,,, and sent it to Bo's computer ,,,,,,,, we all know that did not happen ,,,,,,,, I am not trying to be insulting here ,,,,,, but is there anyone that doesn't understand about editing digital recordings ,,,,,

John received a digital recording of the war zone ,,,,, and he even said it was delayed (a hour or so difference between when it was live and played back) ,,,,,, just like Maggie's murder was delayed (a time lapse) ,,,,,,,,

everyone seems to be reacting to things they see ,,,,,, things that seem impossible to do or have happened,,,,,, but with a digital editing program ,,,,,, like Sami being Stan ,,,,,, and people are seemingly living thu things that would otherwise kill them ,,,,, like Marlena falling from the balcony at the penthouse ,,,,,,, or the endless list of things that are just impossible ,,,,,,, and people appearing and disappearing ,,,,,,,

how easy is that to do ,,,,,,,, just insert that person into a digital recording and it is like he was really there ,,,,,, makes it seem like it is magic or hocus pocus ,,,,,, when it is just new technology ,,,,,, which is as easy as changing the color of someone's eyes ,,,,,,,,,

I think there is a possibility ,,,,,, that some of this is going on ,,,,,, on Days ,,,,,,, and some of what we are seeing ,,,,,, and have seen ,,,,,, isn't real ,,,,,,

to be continued ,,,,,,,

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Re: My video technology theory ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #2 on Jan 10, 2006, 10:46pm »
posted by HenryNMac
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Only virtual reality doesn't exist yet ,,,,,, but digital recordings that can be changed does ,,,,,,,

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my matrix theory ,,,,,,,
« Thread Started on Jan 15, 2006, 10:36pm »
posted by HenryNMac
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I use to think this was some sort of matrix ,,,,,, like the movies ,,,,,,, and now with the ghost return ,,,,,,, I was thinking maybe that I wasn't so wrong after all ,,,,,, and I shouldn't have dismissed that idea ,,,,,,

I just don't see how they can make it possible ,,,,,, and I certainly don't think the machines have taken over Salem ,,,,,, but I could believe there is some sort of weird version of the matrix ,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,, and someone is behind some sort of matrix idea ,,,,,,,

maybe a combo of the matrix,,,,,, digital recording theory ,,,,,,,

HenryNMac

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Re: my matrix theory ,,,,,,,
«Reply #1 on Feb 12, 2006, 2:09pm »
posted by HenryNMac
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the matrix was on last night ,,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,,, I was so sure when the serial killer story was playing out ,,,,,,,, that Marlena was running around disconnecting people from control of the ISA ,,,,,,,, I wish I keep all my post and notes on this ,,,,,,, to compare now ,,,,,,,

one thing about the matrix was the kitty or cat ,,,,,,, the glitch in the matrix ,,,,,, meaning they changed something ,,,,,,,, or the deju vue ,,,,,, it kind of fit with the kitty Zack was looking for when he was hit by the car ,,,,,,,


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and henryrmacs' post from the "the three islands" thread
here on 2ndChances Reflections:

one theory is the matrix one and now that we are into this dante stuff again ,,,,,,,, which I thought about at one time too ,,,,,, but I too dismissed it ,,,,,,,,, the matrix was a clue ,,,,,,, the god reference is very much in the matrix movies ,,,,,,, the backwards words in the train station (limbo) ,,,,,,,, Neo (savior) was blind at the end ,,,,,,, Tony (Agent Smith) who duplicates himself and takes others forms Alex and Kate ,,,,,,,,,, endless similarities ,,,,,,,,,



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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 9:51 AM
I liked this because of the cat in the Matrix and the cat with Zack..

I also am reminded of the weird virtual reality thing when Stefano had captured Marlena in Paris and John was able to see her with some sort of virtual reality glasses.

Not to mention the "Virtual Eden" plot.


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From: HenryRMac Sent: 7/8/2006 10:44 AM
In message 3 you wrote ,,,,

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I liked this because of the cat in the Matrix and the cat with Zack..

I also am reminded of the weird virtual reality thing when Stefano had captured Marlena in Paris and John was able to see her with some sort of virtual reality glasses.

Not to mention the "Virtual Eden" plot.
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there was also a cat when Marlena was in the grave yard ,,,,,,, when John chased her ,,,,,,,, and also there was a cat mentioned by the woman ,,,,,, I think it was Crystal ,,,,,,, who said Marlena had a cat ,,,,,,,,

Tony also mentioned a woman with a cat ,,,,,,,,

there were other cat sightings ,,,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,, the glitch in the matrix ,,,,,,, de ja vu ,,,,,,,, how many times have we seen a scene over and over again ,,,,,,,,




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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 10:58 AM
In the movie, when Morpheus is about to offer Neo the choice between either the red pill or the blue pill, he explains:

You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life; that there's something wrong with the world; you don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

The Matrix, Neo asks?

Do you want to know what it is? The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes; it is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

And Neo asks, What truth?

That you are a slave Neo, like everyone else, you were born into bondage; born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch; a prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to experience it for yourself.


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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 11:03 AM
(Morpheus produces a box containing two colored pills, one blue and one red.)
This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you awake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

(Pause. Neo reaches for the red pill.)

Remember: all I’m offering is the truth, nothing more.

(Neo swallows the red pill with a glass of water.)



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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 11:09 AM
Neo [to Trinity]: "I have these memories from my life. None of them happened. What does that mean?"

Trinty's Answer: "That the Matrix cannot tell you who you are."


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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 11:10 AM
Neo [to Choi]: "You ever have the feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?

Morpheus [to Neo]: "Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? How would you know the difference between the real world and the real world?"

Morpheus [to Neo]: "You have the look of a man who accepts what he see because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth."


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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 11:11 AM
Trinity [to Neo]: It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's question that brought you here."



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From: bookdal Sent: 7/8/2006 12:15 PM
The Matrix is in part based on Baudrillard's Simulation and Simulacra. Take a look at this link, for explanation http://www.uta.edu/english/hawk/semiotics/baud.htm


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From: pallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 1:56 PM
This link associates "The Matrix" and "Simlation and Simulacra". It also talks of René Descartes' "Meditations" -- specifically his dream of the evil demon come to trick him into believing that everything he senses and thinks is false.
http://publish.uwo.ca/~dmann/Matrix_essay.htm

I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but it looks interesting.



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From: HenryRMac Sent: 1/17/2007 5:04 PM
with the possibility of a spin off ,,,,,, or a Passions/Days merge ,,,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,,, I know it is only my thoughts ,,,,,,, the Matrix idea ,,,,,, sounds like it could be plausible ,,,,,,,


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From: HenryRMac Sent: 1/17/2007 5:23 PM
In message 12 you wrote ,,,,,,

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From: MSN Nicknamepallysmom Sent: 7/8/2006 2:56 PM
This link associates "The Matrix" and "Simlation and Simulacra". It also talks of René Descartes' "Meditations" -- specifically his dream of the evil demon come to trick him into believing that everything he senses and thinks is false.
http://publish.uwo.ca/~dmann/Matrix_essay.htm

I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but it looks interesting.
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This link is a good one ,,,,,, if you get a chance ,,,,,,,, read it ,,,,,,,,


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From: CanuckDaysfan Sent: 1/17/2007 8:30 PM
It's funny that you should bring this topic back up. The monitor beside John the other day had the numbers 60 and 96. I read it as June 96, which happens to be a significant month in Days history. Stefano kidnapped Marlena. Their plane crashed and they were presumed dead. Kristen was faking her pregnancy. Kate found out the truth about Sami drugging Austin. Sami outed Lucas to Kate. Lucas banned Kate from his life. Hope was suspended from the police force. John put on the virtual reality goggles...

http://www.bethsdayspage.com/days/archive/1996/6.24.96.html




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From: HenryRMac Sent: 1/17/2007 8:47 PM
In message 15 you wrote ,,,,,,,

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From: MSN NicknameCanuckDaysfan Sent: 1/17/2007 9:30 PM
It's funny that you should bring this topic back up. The monitor beside John the other day had the numbers 60 and 96. I read it as June 96, which happens to be a significant month in Days history. Stefano kidnapped Marlena. Their plane crashed and they were presumed dead. Kristen was faking her pregnancy. Kate found out the truth about Sami drugging Austin. Sami outed Lucas to Kate. Lucas banned Kate from his life. Hope was suspended from the police force. John put on the virtual reality goggles...

http://www.bethsdayspage.com/days/archive/1996/6.24.96.html
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I was thinking about the virtual reality goggles too ,,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,, so what do you think ,,,,,,, is it possible ,,,,,,, it has been a long time since I watch any of those movies ,,,,,,,, I remember when I first did the research on the Matrix ,,,,,,,, there were many similarities ,,,,,,, I just couldn't see how they would present it ,,,,,,, to a viewing audience who might not be open to this kind of scifi story line ,,,,,,,

From: CanuckDaysfan Sent: 1/17/2007 8:56 PM
I haven't really watched the Matrix movies. I have them, and I'll try to find the time over the weekend.

As for the scifi, I don't buy it as the solution, but rather as another symptom. It's like all of the literary and biblical layers. They're part of the storytelling, but something else is at work. I'm not convinced there are even "good" and "bad" guys behind it all. In fact, tomorrow's show gave me stronger than ever soap within a soap vibes. And now with the announcement about Passions, and the lastest about NBC not likely keeping Days, I'd say the final reveal won't be til 2009 and it'll either turn out that we were watching the Salem reality show for the past decade and a half or it's Alice or someone else and we'll end up with a new Salem on a new network.

They are still giving us clues though. Lucas tomorrow is dressed almost identically (right down to the shaggy hair) as he was 3 years ago for the circus - the same circus that "revealed" the SSK to us.



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From: HenryRMac Sent: 1/17/2007 9:23 PM
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From: MSN NicknameCanuckDaysfan Sent: 1/17/2007 9:56 PM
I haven't really watched the Matrix movies. I have them, and I'll try to find the time over the weekend.

As for the scifi, I don't buy it as the solution, but rather as another symptom. It's like all of the literary and biblical layers. They're part of the storytelling, but something else is at work. I'm not convinced there are even "good" and "bad" guys behind it all. In fact, tomorrow's show gave me stronger than ever soap within a soap vibes. And now with the announcement about Passions, and the lastest about NBC not likely keeping Days, I'd say the final reveal won't be til 2009 and it'll either turn out that we were watching the Salem reality show for the past decade and a half or it's Alice or someone else and we'll end up with a new Salem on a new network.

They are still giving us clues though. Lucas tomorrow is dressed almost identically (right down to the shaggy hair) as he was 3 years ago for the circus - the same circus that "revealed" the SSK to us.
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two shows ,,,,,,, one real and one not ,,,,,, one where the good guys are fighting to remain free ,,,,,, and one where the bad guys are manipulating everything for their own purpose ,,,,,,,,

I have the movies too ,,,,,,, I will have to pull them out ,,,,,,,, and watch them over the week end if I can ,,,,,,,, the replay of scenes and storyline ,,,,,,,, would be something that would fit right in with the Matrix theory ,,,,,,,,,

Belle and Shawn running away with Claire ,,,,,,,, would fit also ,,,,,,,, as well as Victor and philip going after her ,,,,,,, especially if Phillip is still ISA ,,,,,,




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From: HenryRMac Sent: 2/11/2007 6:17 AM
I wanted to bring this up ,,,,,,, since the show may be letting us in on what is really going on ,,,,,,,,


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I saw this game the other day ,,,,,,, that reminded me of this theory ,,,,,, I had to laugh ,,,,,, the game was putting anyone in a famous scene ,,,,,,,,LOL ,,,,,, using a green screen and a few other video magic tricks ,,,,,, imagine that ,,,,,,, you can really do what I was trying to say ,,,,,,,,, I think ,,,,,,
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