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A Few Funeral Thoughts
Topic Started: Saturday Jun 20 2009, 03:10 PM (824 Views)
Medea
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What was with Roman threatening to turn in his badge and go after li'l Elvis if he did one more thing to Roman's family? Why would li'l Elvis ever believe that, since the first 837593 things he did to Roman's family weren't enough?

Taylor Spreitler and Ari Zucker have ridiculous chemistry.

Lots of people-- Will, Lucas, Arianna, Brady, Bo, Hope, Stephanie-- have commented that Sami was right to hide Grace from EJ. How come none of them want to know why the hell Sami would ever do anything to have two children by him? (I get that they wouldn't ask her to her face, and I get that the show wants to ignore that Johnny is a rape baby, but still...)

In what universe would Lucas not be there, for Will if not for Sami?

In what universe would Marlena not be there? OK, Dee Hall was fired. There should have at least been a phone call explaining that planes weren't being allowed to leave Switzerland due to a freak something-or-other.

Max should have been there, too. Probably he would have been mourning a lost dating opportunity. But he should have been there.

Where were Lexie and Abe? They still live in Salem.

Liked that Bo said he can't stay mad at Sami. That's always been true, but I don't remember him saying it before.

Who were all those extras at the funeral? Sami was busy playing "three of us against the world," so it's not like she and Grace were out making friends who would come to a funeral when her own family wouldn't.

Oh, have I mentioned how much "three of us against the world" grates on me, considering Sami has three other children?

So we don't see Allie with Johnny before or after the funeral, and Allie doesn't get mentioned in Will's little story about himself, Johnny, and Grace. Poor forgotten Lumibaby. But I'm glad she's off camera, because a baby off camera is a baby who won't have her paternity switched.

Rafe was way out of line physically blocking an obviously upset Will from leaving the townhouse and making sarcastic comments at him in the process. I don't care if Bo, Roman, Caroline, etc., want to lecture Will, but a man who barely knows Will had not place saying anything, let alone doing something that physically aggressive.
Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007
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Great post - ITA!!

I don't even want to start on Lucas not being at the funeral (bh) so I'll just skip that curse worthy, inexcusable error!!!

I'm also furious over Rafe's behavior with Will - IA, totally out of line. I've been more than patient with Rafe and even though I thought the adoption angle was beyond stupid, it was at least enjoyable to have Sami be willing to accept anyone other than EJ as Grace's father. However, someone needs to clue Rafe in that Will has a good father and lots of family. He does not need Rafe's assistance or interference and he certainly doesn't need Rafe trying to assert himself as any type of father figure -- I'm not willing to extend any patience for Rafe in that regard.

I loved the Bo/Hope scenes and the other family scenes with Stephanie and Brady comforting Sami. Mia/Taylor and Will/Dylan are both doing a great job and I thought their scenes were also good.

I LOVE that everyone thinks Sami did the right thing in hiding Grace from EJ. Even Arianna who doesn't like Sami and could have easily used that news as justification to point out to Rafe why he shouldn't trust Sami, was quick to say that she would have done the same thing. Even Salem's current "do no wrong, good girl" Stephanie said she would have done the same thing as Sami. I think this may be a good sign that EJ is finally headed for the long awaited fall. It probably won't be that satisfying of a fall, but at the very least the truth about Johnny's paternity may come out.

Even though Will hasn't voiced his thoughts about Sami sleeping with EJ, I think that is at the root of his anger toward Sami. He might be mad about the lie but I think his fury is over the fact that Sami willingly slept with EJ. It is easier and less painful to claim that he is mad about the lie than to have say out loud the real reason he is so angry. At the funeral, Will points out EJ to Mia and tells her that he was Grace's father, saying something about that being the reason he is so angry at his Mom.
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Good posts. I have no idea why Lucas wasn't there, yet there was all those extras.

I didn't get Will line about how he could kind of understand her lie. It's like if you can kind of understand the lie, why are you mad at her?


And we NEED more Allie on screen. We needed her at the funeral. I miss that little girl.
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Lucas had a reason to be there, if nothing else then to support his son, but we all know obviously he does have other motives. So for the writers to leave him out is either intentional or maybe Bryan was sick or something, I can't fathom what other reasons why they would have about 20 extras and no Lucas who definately belongs. I am still heading toward this is an intentional move that is building up to something....
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The writers are afraid of putting Rafe and Lucas in the same scenes with Sami. It would be clear to all with whom she belongs.
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Saturday Jun 20 2009, 09:38 PM
I didn't get Will line about how he could kind of understand her lie. It's like if you can kind of understand the lie, why are you mad at her?


Because she lied TO HIM, and she had Lucas lie TO HIM. It used to be Sami, Lucas, and Will against the world. Then it was Sami, Rafe, and Grace against the world. He felt pushed to the side, while his mother was happily starting over with no baggage.

And because of the lie, Will feels like he didn't love Grace enough. He resented his mother's decision to adopt with her new boytoy when she didn't have the time and attention her existing three children needed. He wouldn't have wasted that time resenting Grace instead of loving her if he'd still been in his mother's "inner circle" and trusted with the truth.

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The writers are afraid of putting Rafe and Lucas in the same scenes with Sami. It would be clear to all with whom she belongs.


Maybe the writers are more worried about Rafe knowing with whom she belongs than all knowing with whom she belongs. They made a point of having Sami tell Rafe "about her past" off camera even though that's something very important to their development as a couple. Now they're having Rafe meet everyone in Sami's life but Lucas even though Lucas is clearly still in Sami's life. Perhaps Rafe is being set up for a major shock when he finally sees Lumi together and knew nothing about how close they are?
Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007
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they did not even mention why belle was not there right?
Bryan Dattilo is just magic
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No, they didn't mention Belle. Belle's absence I can accept more than most others because she's living on a boat and maybe is out of touch for days at a time (and days is all it took). But it would have been nice if there had been a comment from Will or Bo/Hope or Brady about not being able to reach her.
Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007
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Medea
Sunday Jun 21 2009, 08:38 AM
No, they didn't mention Belle. Belle's absence I can accept more than most others because she's living on a boat and maybe is out of touch for days at a time (and days is all it took). But it would have been nice if there had been a comment from Will or Bo/Hope or Brady about not being able to reach her.
did they even gave exuse for anybody that could not make it?
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Sunday Jun 21 2009, 07:36 AM
The writers are afraid of putting Rafe and Lucas in the same scenes with Sami. It would be clear to all with whom she belongs.
I think you hit the nail on the head, Erica :)
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Medea
Sunday Jun 21 2009, 07:55 AM
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Saturday Jun 20 2009, 09:38 PM
I didn't get Will line about how he could kind of understand her lie. It's like if you can kind of understand the lie, why are you mad at her?


Because she lied TO HIM, and she had Lucas lie TO HIM. It used to be Sami, Lucas, and Will against the world. Then it was Sami, Rafe, and Grace against the world. He felt pushed to the side, while his mother was happily starting over with no baggage.

And because of the lie, Will feels like he didn't love Grace enough. He resented his mother's decision to adopt with her new boytoy when she didn't have the time and attention her existing three children needed. He wouldn't have wasted that time resenting Grace instead of loving her if he'd still been in his mother's "inner circle" and trusted with the truth.

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The writers are afraid of putting Rafe and Lucas in the same scenes with Sami. It would be clear to all with whom she belongs.


Maybe the writers are more worried about Rafe knowing with whom she belongs than all knowing with whom she belongs. They made a point of having Sami tell Rafe "about her past" off camera even though that's something very important to their development as a couple. Now they're having Rafe meet everyone in Sami's life but Lucas even though Lucas is clearly still in Sami's life. Perhaps Rafe is being set up for a major shock when he finally sees Lumi together and knew nothing about how close they are?
I think that is what's gonna happen. I am waiting to see the summer photo shoot and the pics that officially come out of that for summer promos. We know we got the updated Lumily, I wonder if we'll get a triangle pic of Lucas/Sami/Rafe. Does anyone know when those will be out officially? I know last year they came out in July sometime, so we can't be too far away. Hopefully by then the Chloe/Lucas thing is done. and we can all focus on bigger and better things.
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