Reflections going even further back to when DOOL first debued

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Reflections going even further back to when DOOL first debued
Topic Started: Thursday Jul 30 2009, 10:55 PM (163 Views)
true_love_soulmates_forever	Thursday Jul 30 2009, 10:55 PM Post #1
Lumi Masters Posts: 4,315 Group: All Access Lumi Member #133 Joined: March 24, 2006	Norma and Henry I just wanted to pointed out to you I found some more reflections for you to ponder about that go back even further then you anticipated. I was watching a really really old Marlena clip on You Tube of Marlena and this guy named Kellam and I just realize that Sami and Marlena both share more then one thing in common a best friend Joshua Fallon Marlena's best friend and something else and Joshua went after Kellam after talking to Marlena and visiting her in order to beat him up for what happened with Marlena and Sami's being Lucas Roberts (Horton) who went after Alan to beat him up Alan when he found out what happened with Sami. Lucas was reflecting Marlenas best friend Joshua Fallon which is truly surprising to me and Sami is reflecting Marlena with something similar that happened to both women twice I think you know what I'm refering too and its just surprised me that Sami and Marlena are reflecting one another. I just thought I would point that out in case you were interested in knowing that I think these reflections go back even further then you thought on the show so you could add that to the equasion in case this goes back even further and that history was being changed and reflections on the show when it first daybued on the air in the way way earlier years that it was going on even back then so it could go back even further then you anticipated. I just thought I would point that out if you were interested in looking into even the reflections from the really really old stuff when the show first debuted to check them out as well and in my opinion I think this has been going on since day one and that everybody is reflecting someoneesle I also think that this could have been going on since day one. I am interested in hearing what both your thoughts are on this and that this could possibly go back even further then you anticipated. Thanks for letting me post this for I truly appreciate it. I thought you would be interested in this and that I think the reflections on the show have been happening since day one when the show first debuted. I don't know if this could mean anything but it might and I wonder what the outcome will be when the get to the end of the reflection pool and out of backwards Salem and Salem wonderland and back to the real Salem. Thanks again for letting me post this for I truly appreciate it and I am interested in hearing your thoughts about this as well with all this reflections even ones that have been happening since the very beginning since the show first debuted. I just thought that you and Henry would both find this interesting to say the least that the reflections have been going on since day one when the show first aired. Edited by true_love_soulmates_forever, Friday Jul 31 2009, 12:31 AM.
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HenryNMac	Friday Jul 31 2009, 09:28 AM Post #2
Lumi Sophmore Posts: 180 Group: Lumi Fans Member #1,079 Joined: December 27, 2008	I am not sure if there is any woman on the show ,,,,,,,,, that hasn't been raped ,,,,,,, it is the scenes ,,,,,,,,, that have been repeated that would be a reflection,,,,,, at least to me that is ,,,,,, almost exact dialog is repeated ,,,,,, or used somehow in the reflection ,,,,,,, example ,,,,,, this is a Marlena and John scene ,,,,,,, they are on the side of a pond and someone sees them ,,,,,,, it is Victor (a Kiriakis) ,,,,,, and he steps on a twig ,,,,,,,, Marlena was in white ,,,,,, the reflected scene ,,,,,,, John and Marlena are on a beach (a body of water is involved) ,,,,, someone sees them ,,,,,, it is Belle (a Kiriakis at the time) ,,,,,, she steps on a twig ,,,,,,, Marlena is in black ,,,,, the colors are a clue ,,,,,, and the same colors are in the refection somewhere ,,,,,,, but I will take is a step farther and say ,,,,,,,, the second scene above was rewritten history ,,,,,,, same but different ,,,,,, all the parts were there ,,,,,, they even kissed on the beach in each scene ,,,,,,



HenryNMac	Friday Jul 31 2009, 09:34 AM Post #3
Lumi Sophmore Posts: 180 Group: Lumi Fans Member #1,079 Joined: December 27, 2008	one more thing ,,,,,, the color change for Marlena to an opposite one ,,,,,, means something ,,,,,, I think black is a repeated scene for that person ,,,,, because Marlena herself repeated the scene ,,,,,, if Sami was reflecting a Marlena in that scene ,,,,,, she would have had black and white on ,,,,,,, black because it is a reflection ,,,,,,, and white because it is what Marlena had on originally ,,,,,,, of course she could have been wearing green ,,,,,,, recycled scene ,,,,,, LOL ,,,,,,



true_love_soulmates_forever	Friday Jul 31 2009, 10:12 AM Post #4
Lumi Masters Posts: 4,315 Group: All Access Lumi Member #133 Joined: March 24, 2006	Thanks Henry I thought it was but it seems like the show has been reflecting back to scenes from almost the beginning of when the show first started and I love your intake along with Norma's and it has been truly interesting to say the least to read everything that both of you have come up with I just watched this clip last night and this episode either took place in the late 60's or maybe this was an episode from in the 70's when the show was pretty new and first debuted I believe the show first aired in 1965 but I could be wrong on that. Marlena was really young and I believe this happened before Sami and Eric were born in the 80's I was reading that this Kellam guy was Marlena's boss and this was the time she was involved I think with Don Craig and their was a little boy in this clip also I can't remember his name but Marlena was sending him off to go some place and she and this little boy shared a hug he had dark short hair and wore glasses and Joshua Fallon and Marlena were really great Friends at this time and Joshua went after Kellam after he visited Marlena and took her in his arms and comforted her before he went to find Kellam and I think that this is possibly when she was married to or was with Don Craig at the and this was before her and Eugene became really great friends and well before she met Roman Joshua Fallon,Neil Curtis,this little boy and Kellam were in this clip so like I said this goes way way back to when the show was first aired. I found it interesting to say the least and thought that both you and Norma would find this reflection interesting as well. When Lucas came on the scene his actions to go after Alan after Lucas comforted Sami and found out what happened it seemed similar and almost but not quite identical to the Marlena and Joshua scenes I watched last night where Joshua did almost the exact same thing he comforted Marlena and then afterwards went after Kellam he put two and two together and went after this Kellam guy. This is why I thought to myself could Lucas be reflecting Joshua Fallon somewhat since they both did the same thing and that Sami could be mirroring Marlena somehow as well and that these reflections have been going on well before you guys picked up on this and that a transaction has been going on all along. I love your intakes on this and I am glad you are both interest in this to see where this will lead to hopefully soon something is established when we get back to the real Salem and get to see where Lucas and Sami end up in this transition. I want them together and think they will be but I am truly interested in how they show them and what history they decide to put in place for them once and for all with them being together. Its interesting that these reflections happen to go back to even when the show first started.
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HenryNMac	Friday Jul 31 2009, 01:59 PM Post #5
Lumi Sophmore Posts: 180 Group: Lumi Fans Member #1,079 Joined: December 27, 2008	You know what ,,,,,,, you are so right ,,,,,,, which makes it so much easier ,,,,,, I couldn't even tell you what is happening on the show right now ,,,,,,, and your points only make it easier to never regret ,,,,,, my decision to stop watching ,,,,,,,, I wasted an incredible amount of time ,,,,,, trying to convince people of what I saw so clearly ,,,,,, and I clung to that glimmer of hope for so long ,,,,,, but the show is what it is ,,,,,, nothing more and nothing less ,,,,,, and that is something I no longer care to invest any time in watching ,,,,,,, I like this board ,,,,,,, and I do like to spend time doing something to avoid working ,,,,,, and sometimes (like today) ,,,, this is what I do ,,,,,, it is better than cutting 2 acres of grass ,,,,,,, LOL ,,,,, I should just get a few goats ,,,,,,, thanks for giving me something to talk about ,,,,,,, cya ,,,,,



true_love_soulmates_forever	Friday Jul 31 2009, 04:15 PM Post #6
Lumi Masters Posts: 4,315 Group: All Access Lumi Member #133 Joined: March 24, 2006	Henry please don't leave us I do love what your saying I think your onto something and I would love to see if your theories on whats happening pan out please don't leave us we love you hear at Second Chances and I always enjoy reading your theories a perhaps one of them will pan out I do hope you continue post with us. We love you and I believe that your right I really do and that there are more reflections out their with different meanings and that somethings happening and that all is not what it seems and that the show is giving us clues in each individual scene on the show to annalise but I am hoping soon that all is revealed to us. I do hope you do continue on posting your theories because I do believe in everything your saying and that there are still clues within each scene yet to be discovered. numbers,colors like your saying even a few other things and I myself still don't know whats going on either and I believe in your theories and believe they will pan out I do now more then ever. I hope you do stick around for as I said I love reading your posts on this and do know something is going on as to the two you posted above I do find them really interesting and think that something is going to pan out Its going to a little patientice and understanding and searching and reading between the lines in the clues that the show seems to be giving us on a daily basis. I know your onto something and I hope you reconsider for I know you have put a lot of time into this and I do think your theories are going to pan out and I hope you will continue to stick with this so you can get to see them pan out and how they do wind up panning out. My appologies for before and I do hope you continue to stick around and not give up altogether and continue to grace of with what you think and what clues you continue to discover on a daily basis. We love and we truly want you to stay and continue to post your theories and possible clues on what you think is happening. I have a feeling your theories are spot on this and will be the ones that pan out and that they will come to light on this I always love reading your theories and I am completely clueless along with the rest of the group as to what could be happening and reading your theories always makes me think is it possible and could he be right and will this be what happens? Your doing a wonderful job and I don't know what to think anymore and definately know something is off and that all is not what it seems in Salem and your theories along with Norma's always get me me to truly think that there is definately more happening then meets thee eye and are the ones I believe are correct and I still have no clue as to whats happening and your theories give me help me get through this of not understanding whats happening but would like to understand whats happening and you and Norma seem to be the ones that are onto something and I want to see your theories pan out. I hope you reconsider your decision because I do believe your onto something and something is definately amiss in Salem and I would love to continue to hear what you think and know what the clues are that we should all look for the clues do seem to keep being passed around to different segments. I believe in your theories very much and I believe your theories are going to pan out and I hope you continue to stick around to see how it happens and continue to post what you believe for I do believe that it will truly happen as your predicting. I believe in you and I definately believe in your theories and I just wanted to say we love you all and I hope that you continue to post what you think and what you believe is happening in Salem. For your posts get me through the day and I love each and everyone of them.
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CanuckDaysfan	Friday Jul 31 2009, 04:18 PM Post #7
Keeper of the Clips Posts: 13,746 Group: Managers Member #1 Joined: November 22, 2005 Lucas & Sami are inevitable.	lol Henry, I hear you. We've spent years on all of this and they're bound and determined to make the show as miserable as possible to watch (which kind of intensifies my belief that it will end with Alice's death, but that's neither here nor there anymore). I still see things everytime I bother to actually look at it, but it's very easy for me to just shrug my shoulders and say "who cares?" You're right. It is what it is and they're in no hurry to reveal anything. I do sometimes wonder if things would be different if JER hadn't died last year, but there's not much point in dwelling on it because it can't be changed. If they ever get around to a reveal, I doubt I'll be watching. There are so few characters left that I actually give a damn about anymore, and most of them have been severely damaged. Ali was right. Apathy, not hate, is the opposite of love. I used to love this show, and this game. Now I feel nothing.



HenryNMac	Friday Jul 31 2009, 06:10 PM Post #8
Lumi Sophmore Posts: 180 Group: Lumi Fans Member #1,079 Joined: December 27, 2008	fanfic ,,,,,, I am not leaving the board ,,,,,, I do read it from time to time ,,,,,, I am just not watching the show anymore ,,,,,,, and I don't think I will be starting up again ,,,,,,, most of the time this is a place to pass some time ,,,,, while surfing ,,,,,, a nice sort of diversion ,,,,,,, Edited by HenryNMac, Friday Jul 31 2009, 06:30 PM.



HenryNMac	Friday Jul 31 2009, 06:28 PM Post #9
Lumi Sophmore Posts: 180 Group: Lumi Fans Member #1,079 Joined: December 27, 2008	CanuckDaysfan Friday Jul 31 2009, 04:18 PM lol Henry, I hear you. We've spent years on all of this and they're bound and determined to make the show as miserable as possible to watch (which kind of intensifies my belief that it will end with Alice's death, but that's neither here nor there anymore). I still see things everytime I bother to actually look at it, but it's very easy for me to just shrug my shoulders and say "who cares?" You're right. It is what it is and they're in no hurry to reveal anything. I do sometimes wonder if things would be different if JER hadn't died last year, but there's not much point in dwelling on it because it can't be changed. If they ever get around to a reveal, I doubt I'll be watching. There are so few characters left that I actually give a damn about anymore, and most of them have been severely damaged. Ali was right. Apathy, not hate, is the opposite of love. I used to love this show, and this game. Now I feel nothing. "who cares" ,,,,,,, I couldn't have said it better ,,,,,, even though we have never met ,,,,,, or exchanged any private messages ,,,,,, I feel a sort of kinship with you ,,,,,, we were on a shared quest ,,,,,,, that has ended for me ,,,,,, but I enjoyed the journey ,,,,,,, thanks ,,,,,, I am sure I will be around ,,,,,, I haven't watched the show in so long ,,,,,,, I don't even know what's happening ,,,,,,, all I read for the most part are actor interviews ,,,,,, ones that I am sill interested in ,,,,,,, but really there are so many actors and characters ,,,,,,,,, on the show now that i have no idea ,,,,,,, who they are ,,,,,,,, it is only a matter of time before I won't ,,,,,,, be able to enjoy anything they say ,,,,,,, it will be like Greek to me ,,,,,, cya around ,,,,,,,,



CanuckDaysfan	Saturday Aug 1 2009, 01:15 PM Post #10
Keeper of the Clips Posts: 13,746 Group: Managers Member #1 Joined: November 22, 2005 Lucas & Sami are inevitable.	It's been a sometimes, okay, quite often aggravating few years, but it's been fun having some company on this quest. I hope I still cya around here from time to time.



satnitheat	Saturday Aug 15 2009, 02:01 AM Post #11
Lumi Freshman Posts: 24 Group: Lumi Fans Member #848 Joined: October 30, 2007	Interesting reflections, especially since sami and marlena were somewhat estranged for awhile. i'll keep watching....i find Sami's character too fascinating for me to not watch and i enjoy lucas too. and i must say i like watching a few others on the show. stephanie, melanie, phillip, chole and daniel are a fun item. and nicole and ej are fun to watch. however, i agree sami's storylines of late...oh the last 9 months or so especially have been crummy.



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