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| Tweet Topic Started: Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:23 PM (1,595 Views) | |
| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:23 PM Post #1 |
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Like him or hate him? I actually loved him, and I love the interaction with Kate...I saw chemistry there...and it didn't hurt that Laura was peed off too....I wonder if they are setting up for something of a storyline here come the fall when the sydnapping is officially over. Kate sounded sort of upset with Stefano.....hmmmm. Hoping that they do consider bringing in Bill and bringing back Lucas and maybe even Jenn...pitting Jenn against Lucas would be pretty cool for a storyline don't ya think? They can bring Laura back too to make it official...Lucas wants to give his parents a shot at happiness while Jenn wants to do the same for hers. Your thoughts! |
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| Norma | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:26 PM Post #2 |
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I loved them! I want him to stay and I want Lucas back. There is so much storyline potential there. I also loved that Kate got under Laura's skin. There aren't many who make me want to root for Kate, but Laura is definitely one of them. (She has irked me ever since she had the affair with faux-Jack). |
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| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:31 PM Post #3 |
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I also loved how that scene played out and how it appears that Bill brings out the good in Kate....I loved the caress of her face and the way she kissed his cheek at the end...loved the little touch of jealousy in Laura, the way she stroked the nape of his neck, and I also loved the fact that Bill put Laura in her place with Alice wouldn't judge her.....perfect...very good actually....I can't wait to see the Lucas and Bill scenes...those are going to be interesting. |
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| Lumidestiny | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:35 PM Post #4 |
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A quick history question, Jennifer is supposed to be older than Lucas right? I'm thinking yes of course but want to make sure. Kate & Bill getting together would be another great way to bring Lucas back permanently. And yes I would love to see the whole entire family dynamic with Lucas & Jen having a bit of sibling rivalry over all of their parents. Edited by Lumidestiny, Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:35 PM.
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| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:43 PM Post #5 |
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Yep Jenn is older than Lucas. |
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| ..ally.. | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 02:43 PM Post #6 |
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Loving the new Bill! I saw bits and pieces of today's episode, and it felt as if the actor was always part of the show. Plus, wouldn't Bill want his son happy? C'mon writers.... Please have Lucas, Bill, Jenn and Laura stay on the show. |
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| ddmtex | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:02 PM Post #7 |
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Only saw bits and pieces of the show as well, but he does seem to fit really well. I've got to say, I never really liked Edward Mallory's Bill. I just never got the appeal he was supposed to have. I thought Chris Stone was a big improvement, I could actually understand women being attracted to him at least, but he did play the swinging playboy a little too much. His Bill just wasn't very likable. And I agree, he would be a welcome addition to the show. Bringing him and Jennifer back, and of course Lucas, would be such an improvement. But I've got to say, one episode of Laura and I'm tired of her already. |
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| lumi_lover22 | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:03 PM Post #8 |
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I would love for Bill and Lucas to have a father-son talk. (Sitting down and having coffee) Lucas: Dad I can't believe your going to sit there and let mom stay married to Stefano Bill: Your mother can make up her own mind. I'm not her husband I can't tell her what to do. Lucas: I can't stand the thought of anyone I love being in the same town as the Dimeras let alone married to one. Bill: Well, Lucas if that's the case how about focusing on how to get Will and Sami away from EJ. Lucas: Sami?! Bill: Yes, Sami Lucas. Anyone with eyes can see you still love her. Don't try to pretend. Lucas: I said my family, Dad. Sami stop wanting to be apart of that long ago. Bill: Son, I'm no fool. You and Sami are made for each other and no one and nothing can keep you two apart. Don't let your fear and anger get in the way of being happy. Go after Sami! Lucas: (thoughtful look) (flashback of Lumi moments) I'll think about. Not the best writing in the world but you get the point. Bring on Lumi and Bate!
Edited by lumi_lover22, Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:06 PM.
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| Medea | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:11 PM Post #9 |
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Loved him! He fit right in, and I sooo wanted to see more of his story with Laura and Kate play out. There's so much baggage there to wade through. For those who aren't clear on the backstory, Bill and Laura were the first longterm star-crossed lovers Days did. Laura's family had a history of mental instability, and she was institutionalized when Jennifer was a small girl. Her breakdown was partially caused by Bill's infidelity. This is a large part of why Jennifer-- who barely remembers her parents being together and was raised more by Tom/Alice and Mike (who was much older)-- so vehemently dislikes Kate. She blames Kate for not having Laura in her life when she was growing up. (Originally, Bill's affair was with Dr. Kate Winograd... Kate Roberts and her son Lucas were a minor rewrite that none of us mind! ) |
| Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007 | |
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| Medea | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:13 PM Post #10 |
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Oh, and I'm one of the few who likes Laura as well... can she say "hi" to her old friend Vivian and maybe hotwire a car while she's in town? |
| Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007 | |
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| Norma | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:17 PM Post #11 |
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lol, I don't hate Laura, I'm just not always on her side. When she was up against Kristen, I rooted for her, and still would. I'd love to see a Laura/Viv redux too. I'd also like Laura to spend some time with Elvis and have her point out to Sami how much he reminds her of Peter Blake. |
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| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:25 PM Post #12 |
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....even Vivian can fit into this story somewhat if Laura recruits her help to win Bill back....hmmmmmm
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| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:26 PM Post #13 |
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Ahhhh...that'll be the day...I would love for his father and him to bond and for his father to see how much Lucas still loves Sami. |
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| kittykat1885 | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:26 PM Post #14 |
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I don't really remember Bill from the first couple go arounds, so I can't really base him on that. But I love this Bill, he just fits. And Laura and Jennifer's reaction to Kate was so Classic Days it made me almost cry. To think that was the Days I loved, and look at where it is now. |
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| ddmtex | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:52 PM Post #15 |
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If you look at the 1985 Christmas episodes, Mike (Michael T. Weiss) and Jennifer (Missy's first year on the show) talk to Bill and Laura in Switzerland at Christmas when they call Tom and Alice's house. So Laura wasn't institutionalized all while Jennifer was growing up. But Bill and Laura did tend to dump her in boarding school and with her grandparents rather than try to raise her themselves. And Dr. Kate Winograd an Kate Roberts are two separate characters. Both Kate's are in a long line of women with whom Bill cheated on Laura. |
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| lumi_lover22 | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 03:55 PM Post #16 |
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I'm like you. I can't really remember the Bill, Laura, Kate triangle. I'm only 21 so I'm not sure when it was supposed to have happened I probably was pretty young we it did. So I can cheer on Bill and Kate for the completely unselfish reason that it could bring Lucas back to stay.
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| Medea | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:03 PM Post #17 |
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The "long line" was a rewrite though, wasn't it? We're talking about storyline that happened before I was born so I don't actually have first hand memories of it, and I'll certainly bow to your greater knowledge. But I've heard multiple longer-term viewers who I trust complain about the rewriting of Bill as a serial cheater... that originally it was ONLY Kate Winograd. And EVERYTHING i've read about the show at that time-- including contemporaneous stuff-- sets up Bill as the sacrificing hero who would do anything for Laura, not a cheater. Also, in the early 90s-- which I do remember-- Laura and Vivian were in the sanitarium together. At that point, wasn't the show pretty clear on Laura having been there virtually all of Jennifer's life? Edited by Medea, Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:09 PM.
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| ddmtex | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:18 PM Post #18 |
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Bill actually left Laura for Kate Winograd and moved in with her, but he went back to Laura eventually. The Kate Roberts part is a rewrite. But he did have affairs with Janice Barnes (whom is son Mike was also interested in) and Mary Anderson while married to Laura. His relationships with Susan Martin and Linda Patterson were before he and Laura were married. All I know is Jennifer and Mike talked to Bill and Laura and they were together for Christmas 1985. I'm not sure how to add links, see if this works. The Bill and Laura part is at the end of the episode. Horton Christmas 1985 Edited by ddmtex, Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:23 PM.
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| luvinglumi | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:19 PM Post #19 |
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Hilary that was the time that Laura was in a catotonic state, right? Was that because she found out about Bill fathering Lucas out of an affair with Kate? I thought that was the story that revealed Lucas as Bill's son and sent Laura into the asylum....I vaguely remember something about her in a catotonic state. |
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| Medea | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:21 PM Post #20 |
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Oh right, I knew about Janice. That squicked me out a little since she had been Mickey/Maggie's foster child at one point. So was Laura catatonic during the Janice, Mary stuff? |
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| ddmtex | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:30 PM Post #21 |
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Mary was before she was catatonic, Janice I believe was after, but I'm not sure of the timing with Janice. |
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| Lucas is awesome | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 04:38 PM Post #22 |
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I'm loving the new Bill so far and think the show should keep him and put him in a story with Kate and Laura throw in Jennifer and Lucas in the dynamic as well. I love everyone's ideas and think they would be ideal for the show. My intake on the new Bill and the actor now playing him since I caught him breifly is that I love him and his dynamic with Kate and Laura so far and am excited to see him interact with Lucas as well and with Jennifer. I truly think the show should keep this actor and let Bill have a story of his own. Lucas needs to be brought perminently and Lucas and Bill need to have lots and lots of father and son scenes together. Edited by Lucas is awesome, Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 05:03 PM.
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| Penguin | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 06:17 PM Post #23 |
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Been waiting since Chris Stone died in 1994 for a Kate / Bill (and possible Lucas) interaction ... so far I liked the KATE/BILL interaction <muahahaha> |
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| Norma | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 07:06 PM Post #24 |
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First of all, I remember watching that 1985 Christmas episode. Holy! Secondly I remember the Bill/Janice affair, and it would have been 1987 . I thought it was uber creepy at the time. As far as Laura goes, I always thought that the 1985 Christmas call was weird, because up until then Laura was thought to be in the sanitarium. Maybe she got better for awhile? I'm sure the only reason they had her call was so that Jennifer could reject her. Jennifer was still very new on the canvas in December of 1985. |
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| Medea | Wednesday Jun 16 2010, 07:35 PM Post #25 |
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Cool, thanks for the YouTube. That... totally doesn't fit with anything I ever thought I knew about Laura. The version I always saw was more or less this one:
http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/characters/hortons1.html#laura |
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