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So I just got a response to my comment about Corday's revelation about how things would end for Rapemi and about Safe being endgame. I simply said that if I had to choose between a violent rapist and a good cop for Sami, I would go with the good cop. But once again a Rapemi fan brings up how Sami drugged Austin so therefore she is a rapist too. And this particular nutcase argues that this makes Rapemi "two of a kind" and that is why they belong together. Excuse me?? So if we use that logic then they are pretty much saying that EJ raping Sami was payback for Sami "raping" Austin and therefore her punishment is to be stuck with him? Apparently according to this Rapemi fan, I have "conveniently forgotten" what Sami did to Austin. Um...I don't think so. I know exactly what Sami did when she was a teenager and I am not excusing it. And I know that Austin forgave Sami later on. But I also know what I saw on my screen back in 2006. And that was EJ holding a gun to Sami and raping her while she cried in terror! I'm sorry but I wasn't thinking of what 17 year old Sami did to Austin at that particular moment. What I saw was a grown man raping a defenseless woman at gunpoint and later saying it was consentual. I can't believe the lengths these fools will go to defend a rape just to have their dysfunctional NON-couple together. It's nothing less than sick! :v
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Its a lame excuse...but consider the source. They also fail to realize most (not saying all) never wanted Sami with Austin.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 12:51 AM
So I just got a response to my comment about Corday's revelation about how things would end for Rapemi and about Safe being endgame. I simply said that if I had to choose between a violent rapist and a good cop for Sami, I would go with the good cop. But once again a Rapemi fan brings up how Sami drugged Austin so therefore she is a rapist too. And this particular nutcase argues that this makes Rapemi "two of a kind" and that is why they belong together. Excuse me?? So if we use that logic then they are pretty much saying that EJ raping Sami was payback for Sami "raping" Austin and therefore her punishment is to be stuck with him? Apparently according to this Rapemi fan, I have "conveniently forgotten" what Sami did to Austin. Um...I don't think so. I know exactly what Sami did when she was a teenager and I am not excusing it. And I know that Austin forgave Sami later on. But I also know what I saw on my screen back in 2006. And that was EJ holding a gun to Sami and raping her while she cried in terror! I'm sorry but I wasn't thinking of what 17 year old Sami did to Austin at that particular moment. What I saw was a grown man raping a defenseless woman at gunpoint and later saying it was consentual. I can't believe the lengths these fools will go to defend a rape just to have their dysfunctional NON-couple together. It's nothing less than sick! :v
It is a sad day for all women when a woman tries to logically defend rape. I really feel sorry for them because they just don't get it.
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A victim should never be with it's rapists no matter what,
cus rape is not romance..
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LOL, I always hated that argument when I hung out on general boards too. "You never complained about victim Austin being paired with rapist Sami," they'd say, despite the fact that I DID complain about that exact thing long before EJ was a twinkle in the writers' eyes.
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I had one argue that rapemi brought in the ratings. Um, yeah, whatever.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 05:38 PM
I had one argue that rapemi brought in the ratings. Um, yeah, whatever.
Maybe they mean they brought in the ratings to an all time low?

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could be because nothing else makes sense. I pointed out the rapemi kiss turned people off.
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In answer to your question...yes this is the only argument they have and it's old and tired. They've been throwing that one out ever since the rape. They don't really have anything on Rafe that they can use like they did on Lucas. When Lucas was on it was always "well Lucas shouldn't have her either because he's abusive!" Boy did I ever get tired of that. Which is why I don't hang out at NBC or Sony anymore.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 07:39 AM
LOL, I always hated that argument when I hung out on general boards too. "You never complained about victim Austin being paired with rapist Sami," they'd say, despite the fact that I DID complain about that exact thing long before EJ was a twinkle in the writers' eyes.
How would 99% of them even know? They didn't watch the show prior to Mr. Pompous-YKW joining in 2006.

As for Austin/Sami, any rooting I ever did for them, was only in the context of wanting Sami to screwover Carrie. I never for a second thought they should be together for any reason other than that.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 05:42 PM
could be because nothing else makes sense. I pointed out the rapemi kiss turned people off.
I still don't understand how they can say that rapemi doesn't turn people off when on EVERY SINGLE OCCASSION that they have tried to romantically pair these two off the ratings tank to all time lows, viewers leave in droves...it happened in 2007, happened in 2008 and it's happened again now...END THE MADNESS, Kenny and Co. should learn from baseball...three strikes and your OUT!
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Oh let's not forget the one arguement that one lady kept using on me. Oh Lucas sent Sami to death row..I don't know how many times I had to tell her that was Kate and Lucas went to save her. But any time rape was mentioned up that would come bc that was all she had..It just got so I left the message boards and refused to go back bc of that sheer stupidty..I am so gkad I don't barely post at all now, except here and Luminous and my twitter.. The rests of the boards are just no fun to post at anymore bc of ykw and his 40 fans..
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Any arguments the Rapemis have against Lucas fall dead because Sami was the instigator there. She kept Will from Lucas knowingly and treated him like crap for years! Lucas was only giving back as good as he got. It was an EQUAL partnership of hate between Lumi. No one was the victim there. Sami willed Lucas to die and taunted him after he came out of his coma. It was totally 50/50 with them. And even during that whole phase, every single time Sami was in trouble, Lucas was there for her. And Lucas ALWAYS showed remorse and felt bad for hurting Sami every time. The rapist on the other hand still goes around with his smug, arrogant self never admitting the rape. And Sami has been dumbed down so bad that she is literally his victim. With Lumi, No matter how hateful Sami was to Lucas, he still put aside his feelings to save her and take care of her. Examples are death row and helicopter crash just to name a few. Not to mention protecting her after her first rape back when they were still friends. And yes, the #1 reason their argument still falls flat to this day is because Lucas did NOT rape Sami or vice versa. And heck no I NEVER wanted Sami with Austin under any circumstances. Rape is not romance.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 12:51 AM
So I just got a response to my comment about Corday's revelation about how things would end for Rapemi and about Safe being endgame. I simply said that if I had to choose between a violent rapist and a good cop for Sami, I would go with the good cop. But once again a Rapemi fan brings up how Sami drugged Austin so therefore she is a rapist too. And this particular nutcase argues that this makes Rapemi "two of a kind" and that is why they belong together. Excuse me?? So if we use that logic then they are pretty much saying that EJ raping Sami was payback for Sami "raping" Austin and therefore her punishment is to be stuck with him? Apparently according to this Rapemi fan, I have "conveniently forgotten" what Sami did to Austin. Um...I don't think so. I know exactly what Sami did when she was a teenager and I am not excusing it. And I know that Austin forgave Sami later on. But I also know what I saw on my screen back in 2006. And that was EJ holding a gun to Sami and raping her while she cried in terror! I'm sorry but I wasn't thinking of what 17 year old Sami did to Austin at that particular moment. What I saw was a grown man raping a defenseless woman at gunpoint and later saying it was consentual. I can't believe the lengths these fools will go to defend a rape just to have their dysfunctional NON-couple together. It's nothing less than sick! :v
Ok I completely cannot deal with the rape issue in 2006. What was just as bad was the torment he put her through afterward. I made this to show all those Rapemi fans that she was not happy it was not consensual because the have such short memories and somebody was still defending what he did. caution !:30-2:10. makes my skin crawl every time.
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 06:35 PM
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 05:42 PM
could be because nothing else makes sense. I pointed out the rapemi kiss turned people off.
I still don't understand how they can say that rapemi doesn't turn people off when on EVERY SINGLE OCCASSION that they have tried to romantically pair these two off the ratings tank to all time lows, viewers leave in droves...it happened in 2007, happened in 2008 and it's happened again now...END THE MADNESS, Kenny and Co. should learn from baseball...three strikes and your OUT!
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According to that "logic", if someone else - like Arianna - were to rape EJ, this would make them "even" and mean they belonged together, yes?
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 07:13 PM
Oh let's not forget the one arguement that one lady kept using on me. Oh Lucas sent Sami to death row..I don't know how many times I had to tell her that was Kate and Lucas went to save her. But any time rape was mentioned up that would come bc that was all she had..It just got so I left the message boards and refused to go back bc of that sheer stupidty..I am so gkad I don't barely post at all now, except here and Luminous and my twitter.. The rests of the boards are just no fun to post at anymore bc of ykw and his 40 fans..
Yeah I remember that one too. And Norma has a very good point 99% of them didn't watch Days before YKW showed up and have to rely on youtube vids to even see part of what happened with the death row incident so most of them are missing out on the fact that it was Kate not Lucas. Alot of them masquerade as "long time" fans but then when questioned about show history beyond YKW are hard pressed to come up with answers. I always hated the whole "Jack raped Jennifer so YKW and Sami are just like them" argument as well. (bh)
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I always hated the whole "Jack raped Jennifer so YKW and Sami are just like them" argument as well.


Me too, because it's a lie. They don't know the history. For the benefit of the cockroaches that I know are lurking, Jack raped Kayla, not Jennifer. He experienced genuine remorse for his actions, unlike Elvis, and to this day there's still an awkwardness between the two characters, as there should be.
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Wednesday Jun 23 2010, 08:17 AM
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Tuesday Jun 22 2010, 07:13 PM
Oh let's not forget the one arguement that one lady kept using on me. Oh Lucas sent Sami to death row..I don't know how many times I had to tell her that was Kate and Lucas went to save her. But any time rape was mentioned up that would come bc that was all she had..It just got so I left the message boards and refused to go back bc of that sheer stupidty..I am so gkad I don't barely post at all now, except here and Luminous and my twitter.. The rests of the boards are just no fun to post at anymore bc of ykw and his 40 fans..
Yeah I remember that one too. And Norma has a very good point 99% of them didn't watch Days before YKW showed up and have to rely on youtube vids to even see part of what happened with the death row incident so most of them are missing out on the fact that it was Kate not Lucas. Alot of them masquerade as "long time" fans but then when questioned about show history beyond YKW are hard pressed to come up with answers. I always hated the whole "Jack raped Jennifer so YKW and Sami are just like them" argument as well. (bh)
Or the Italy trip and the Will doll...that is another they use excessively. They keep saying that Lucas pushed her off the cliff. When I showed them the actual footage of what happened some of them said that well he drugged her and she fell....whatever, I'm so over them.....when I pointed out that when he thought she was dead he gave her mouth to mouth and wished her to live...that doesn't sound like someone who wanted her dead, right. Lucas was as guilty of following Kate's orders as EJ is of following Stefano's....that's it...with one big difference.....Lucas stopped! and Ej is like the energizer bunny he keeps going and going....
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I always hated the whole "Jack raped Jennifer so YKW and Sami are just like them" argument as well.


Me too, because it's a lie. They don't know the history. For the benefit of the cockroaches that I know are lurking, Jack raped Kayla, not Jennifer. He experienced genuine remorse for his actions, unlike Elvis, and to this day there's still an awkwardness between the two characters, as there should be.
and Jack had to suffer with the fact that Jennifer was later raped by Lawrence....Ej is beyong redemption at this point....he's gotten away with way too much.
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Or the Italy trip and the Will doll...that is another they use excessively. They keep saying that Lucas pushed her off the cliff. When I showed them the actual footage of what happened some of them said that well he drugged her and she fell....whatever, I'm so over them.....when I pointed out that when he thought she was dead he gave her mouth to mouth and wished her to live...that doesn't sound like someone who wanted her dead, right. Lucas was as guilty of following Kate's orders as EJ is of following Stefano's....that's it...with one big difference.....Lucas stopped! and Ej is like the energizer bunny he keeps going and going....
And then they say that Sami still doesn't know what happened in Italy, which is why it doesn't matter that she doesn't know about the freezer truck, Sydnapping, etc.

But of course, Sami DOES know about Italy, and during Lumi's love story she tossed out that they "tried to drive me insane with that creepy Will doll" when she was fighting her feelings for Lucas.
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The difference between Lucas and YKW is that Lucas actually shows genuine remorse for the bad things he's done to Sami. YKW does not, he barely even makes an effort at it for that matter. And I still say that a Brady woman should never be paired with a Dimera. NEVER.
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Both Sami and Lucas know about every single underhanded, evil thing they have done to each other. That was what was so great about Lumi's love story, everything was out in the open, they knew each other like an open book, all of their faults, what the other was capable of. They couldn't pretend to be someone else around each other because it was way too late for that. They had already spent half their lives hurting each other to even try to pretend. Yet they still managed to fall in love inspite of it all. But with the rapist it's a whole other ballgame. The bottom line is he RAPED her. Lucas never raped Sami and she never raped him. That is the difference. Once you rape someone, that person is forever your victim so the partnership is never on equal ground. With Lumi, they were equals through and through. If Sami hurt Lucas, Lucas hurt Sami back just as good. But in the end Lucas ALWAYS felt remorse and you don't feel remorse unless you have a conscience and a heart. And for Lucas it went even deeper because he really did care about Sami more than he wanted to admit.

And I also hate it when the Rapemis bring up that time when Lucas slapped Sami when she was having her meltdown over the SSK murders. They conveniently use that excuse to call Lucas abusive as well. But Sami knows he only did that because there was no other way to snap her out of it, she was that gone. He even said he was sorry he had to do this before he slapped her. Yet how many times has Sami slapped, punched, shoved, & thrown things at Lucas? At best Lucas told her the next time she hit him he would hit back but he never did. As for the verbal insults, come on that was Lumi at their best! Like I said Lucas only gave back as good as he got and every nasty thing they ever said to each other was a way to get things off of their chest, alot of it was true, some not. But still that was quintessential Lumi and it is what made them different from the rest.

Anyway there is no point in arguing with the Rapemis anymore because they as many of you have said do NOT know Lumi's history and only started watching when the rapist showed up 4 years ago or as I like to say, when the nightmare began.
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I just saw another sod article where they were ymmering about them kissing and Sami's supposed feelings for her rapist. I think I want to be il everytime I see something like that in their mags. Makes me glad I don't buy em. They love each other my butt. No sane women will love that man after finding out he stole her baby. Classic arguement on that:oh she did the same to him with Grace. Diffferent situation entirely. Two wrings don't make a right. We have to wait tills ept to end this madness? I want the rapist and his victim pairing done with now!
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Wednesday Jun 23 2010, 09:49 AM
I just saw another sod article where they were ymmering about them kissing and Sami's supposed feelings for her rapist. I think I want to be il everytime I see something like that in their mags. Makes me glad I don't buy em. They love each other my butt. No sane women will love that man after finding out he stole her baby. Classic arguement on that:oh she did the same to him with Grace. Diffferent situation entirely. Two wrings don't make a right. We have to wait tills ept to end this madness? I want the rapist and his victim pairing done with now!
They are ridiculous. I still believe that this is a Sami clone and that the real Sami is locked away somewhere and it was when she discovered that Johnny was really Lucas'. Sami is being such a disappointment to me anyway :cry:
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