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Yo Gary T & the rest of the PTB
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Isn't it amazing how good the episodes are when you're using established characters with real history, not the retconned crap? Why, it makes people like me, who've watched Days for decades, actually want to tune in. Too bad, so sad for you that as soon as the vets leave on Monday, I'll be tuning out.
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Amen! Its so sad to see that DAYS knows how to do a soap. Today showed that. Now its worse, because they could give us a real soap opera, TPTB just does not want too.

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I second this!! My television turns OFF as soon as Bryan Dattilo is no longer on my screen. Sending Lucas off to Hong Kong was a BAD decision because longtime viewers like us have left with him. If you want us back, then you will not only bring Lucas back, but also the vets that matter to us. We want HISTORY not crap which is currently what Days is supplying. Rapemi vs. Safe is NOT what viewers want and I would think the ratings have proven that already.
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Yep....I feel the same way....you want to see this and let's face it there has been WAY too much of the Chloe crap but today's epi was great and I hear tomorrow's is by far the best.....too bad that I'll be gone again come Tuesday...now Gary if you can figure out a way to bring Lucas back from Hong Kong soon and keep his good looking dad around for Kate then that might make me want to watch again....until that is announced then buy bye!
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Well lets hope Hope that Gary Tomlin and Ken Corday reconsider there dissision on this and do the right thing in this and bring the vets back for More epeisodes expecially Lucas and Bryan for good this time and maybe some of rest of them as well. The storylines are there for them for Dena Higley and Chris Whitesell and the rest of the wriiters have opened up many opportunities up in all the storielines for all of them. I hope TPTB do the right thing and bring the vets back and have more vet returns coming back besides the ones they have. If they did they would bring back all of the viewers they had in no time.
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For me, it's not just about Bryan. Certainly, I'd be more inclined to tune in if they brought him back as Lucas, but there are other changes that they could make that would also make me think about tuning in. Here's my list:


  • Elvis DiMera - Kill him off or send him to prison, I don't care which. Just get him away from Sami. End all possibility of Rapemi ever being considered again, preferably by severing the ties between them: Johnny & Sydney. If you absolutely must keep him then, he can stay on the show, in a different storyline and either I'll watch, or I'll fast forward.
  • Philip/Melanie/Nathan/Stephanie. I love Philip, but what the heck is he doing married to Pippy Longstocking? Melanie just needs to go away. Sorry Molly, I don't know how you got your Emmy nom. I like Nathan, but Nathan is boring. Nick had his quirks that made him interesting. I know that Nathan was intended as his replacement, but it's not working. How about bringing back Melissa for awhle and having Nathan reveal who his daddy is? That might add some layers, especially if his daddy happens to be Pete Jannings. Stephanie, Stephanie, two strikes and you're almost out. Can't we trade her for Abby?
  • Chloe/Daniel/Carly - I don't care about any of them. Chloe's been ruined by the serial cheating and there's nothing about Daniel that makes me want to care. I used to like Carly, but that was when Lawrence was around to make her interesting. Consider bringing him back from the dead. I don't buy the whole backstory that supposedly happened while they were off canvas. I want to hear his side.
  • Bo/Hope - isn't it time to rest them both? Or at least give Hope a nice long stay in a mental institution. Meanwhile, consider bringing back Shane & Kim to fill the 80's supercouple role.
  • Ari/Brady/Nicole - I love EM as Brady, but he suffers from the same problem as Nathan, he's boring. Ari's a whiny twit who needs to pack up her two siblings and leave town pronto. Nicole needs something fun again. I know, how about bringing back Jack & Jennifer. Jack can hire Nicole to work for him. That would be entertaining.
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Ita. I will not get used to some new faces and as for some new friends, they are better as enemies. Meaning ykw.
I loved this show today and then got angry when I realized it would be right back to the same old slop come monday. Will we ever see any scenes in Alice's kitchen again, with all the Horton's gathered round as it should be?
I couldn't stand Lucas Will and Kate at the mansion. None of them ever would have lived there. Once upon a time Sami would rather have died then lived there. I am looking forward to tuning out again, isn't that sad?
As soon as Lucas/Bryan is out then so am I and I will not look back. It will be great joy never ever to have to deal with the 50 again, ever!
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Today's show was good but yeah I can see the grass on the other side (after Monday) and it sure aint greener. I guess the Dimera mansion scenes are Lucas' goodbye but I still have hope he'll be back. The only thing that pissed me off about today's show was Carrie and Samis convo. Seriously Sami never chased Lucas and she DID find true love with him. TIIC really are trying to pimp this Rapemi vs. Safe crap.
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Thursday Jun 24 2010, 04:20 PM
Today's show was good but yeah I can see the grass on the other side (after Monday) and it sure aint greener. I guess the Dimera mansion scenes are Lucas' goodbye but I still have hope he'll be back. The only thing that pissed me off about today's show was Carrie and Samis convo. Seriously Sami never chased Lucas and she DID find true love with him. TIIC really are trying to pimp this Rapemi vs. Safe crap.
Keep in mind that this was all taped in April. A lot has happened offscreen since then, starting with the ratings completely tanking. It will take them a few months to turn the train around, but I think they will turn it. Otherwise they're heading off the tracks into the valley below, never to be seen again.
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yeah...now is the time for patience...and we've had enough over the years so what's a few more months.....lol....Days can't be THAT stupid right?
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I don't know remember who you're talking about. You give them far too much credit.

Perhaps the network will call Kenny and gently nudge him in the right direction. You know, "Uh Mr. Corday, we're tired of women's groups and victim's rights advocates calling trying to get rid of one of your characters. Something about rape, kidnapping, blackmail... Can you do something about that, hmmm. I mean only if you want to stay on the air... Oh and they suggest shipping you and Gary on a slow boat to China, and bringing someone back from Hong Kong. I don't remember the name, but they said you'd know who we were talking about".
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lol dee dee..that was great!
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Let's hope they care enough about Days to fix their mistakes.
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I'm going to pretty much echo Norma here. For me it's not totally about Bryan/Lumi. It's the show as a whole. There is so much history being ignored and re-written it's not even funny. Long time viewers aren't impressed when history is changed. But my beefs are:
1. EJ Dimera...the character is worthless and frankly when he is on screen I change the channel even if my favorite characters are on.
2. Bo/Hope...give them a rest already. In all of the years I've been watching Bo has always been on and most of that time he has either been involved in a triangle involving Hope or looking for Hope. It's old and boring and tiresome.
3. All of the new characters are confusing and frankly boring to me. Especially the Hernandez clan. They have no ties to Salem and really don't add anything to the mix.
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We've been without Bryan before, but I still watched. Now, with the rapist at the helm and women being disrespected with that rapemance story, it's just too offensive to watch.
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Thursday Jun 24 2010, 02:40 PM
Stephanie, Stephanie, two strikes and you're almost out.
Wow, you're a lot more generous with Stephanie than I am!


  • She hyperventilates because her Uncle Max "dumped" her after one date. Maybe I can't give her a strike for this one because Shelley wasn't playing the character yet, but I'd like to.
  • She leaves and returns, explaining that because she has now had sex, she can be rude to Nick, or something. She is into being abused, thinking it's the bestest thing ever that Jeremy physically attacks her. Strike one.
  • Probably I can't give her a strike for the Ford storyline, but she was far and away the least sympathetic girl in the whole sorority.
  • She badmouths her "friend" Morgan, who repeatedly asked permission to date Max, and then dates Max herself, announcing that she and her uncle are true love. Strike two.
  • For no apparent reason, she and Philip decide that they're in love. First time a Philip romance has sucked. Strike three.
  • Hides letters, fakes pregnancy, etc., to get Nathan. It's all very boring. Strike four.


Like some others, Lucas/Bryan isn't the be all and end all of the show for me. His presence is an improvement, but an end to rape-as-romance and/or the creation of interesting storylines are just as important.
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Agreed!!
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Thursday Jun 24 2010, 09:15 PM
Norma
Thursday Jun 24 2010, 02:40 PM
Stephanie, Stephanie, two strikes and you're almost out.
Wow, you're a lot more generous with Stephanie than I am!


  • She hyperventilates because her Uncle Max "dumped" her after one date. Maybe I can't give her a strike for this one because Shelley wasn't playing the character yet, but I'd like to.
  • She leaves and returns, explaining that because she has now had sex, she can be rude to Nick, or something. She is into being abused, thinking it's the bestest thing ever that Jeremy physically attacks her. Strike one.
  • Probably I can't give her a strike for the Ford storyline, but she was far and away the least sympathetic girl in the whole sorority.
  • She badmouths her "friend" Morgan, who repeatedly asked permission to date Max, and then dates Max herself, announcing that she and her uncle are true love. Strike two.
  • For no apparent reason, she and Philip decide that they're in love. First time a Philip romance has sucked. Strike three.
  • Hides letters, fakes pregnancy, etc., to get Nathan. It's all very boring. Strike four.


Like some others, Lucas/Bryan isn't the be all and end all of the show for me. His presence is an improvement, but an end to rape-as-romance and/or the creation of interesting storylines are just as important.
Sadly I had forgotten most of Stephanie's transgressions. I like SH, so I guess I give her a bit of a pass for that. I just wish they'd figure out what to do with Stephanie.
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It's not that Bryan is the end all be all of the show. It's just that he's a Horton and he didn't want to leave. He wanted a decent story and they could have given him that.

EJ is just the latest in a long line of demented DiMera offspring. The only one that had any real place in Salem was Tony (sorry I can't stand that sanctimonious skank, Lexie), so of course who did they kill off? Way to go guys, thanks. The only DiMera that is needed now is Stefano. Joe is a great actor and in spite of all the wicked things he's done, he's like a ramped up version of Victor. He's hilariously nasty. You love to hate him, as opposed to just hate him.

I watched the show long before Bryan was on and he was never my reason for watching. He was however a big part of my reason for leaving.
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Thursday Jun 24 2010, 11:11 PM
It's not that Bryan is the end all be all of the show. It's just that he's a Horton and he didn't want to leave. He wanted a decent story and they could have given him that.

EJ is just the latest in a long line of demented DiMera offspring. The only one that had any real place in Salem was Tony (sorry I can't stand that sanctimonious skank, Lexie), so of course who did they kill off? Way to go guys, thanks. The only DiMera that is needed now is Stefano. Joe is a great actor and in spite of all the wicked things he's done, he's like a ramped up version of Victor. He's hilariously nasty. You love to hate him, as opposed to just hate him.

I watched the show long before Bryan was on and he was never my reason for watching. He was however a big part of my reason for leaving.
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I also think that if they had shown some respect for the fans and for Bryan and given him a kick ass exit, we might have watched (minus rapemi) but what they did was just wrong.
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I'll be honest I always liked Lucas and really started liking him in 2003 but he's never been my favorite character. Its wasn't until I saw the show trying to focus on EJ and giving him rewards for his crimes (Johnnyn etc) that I really started to lose faith as a viewer. I always thought Days was about true love and heroes and I know Rafe is supposed to be the hero, but Sami already had a hero, why sacrafice a character of 17 years with Salem connections for some new dude. I pretty much was willing to accept Safe when it appeared the writers were erasing Lumis history. It really pissed me off that they acted and had Sami act as if she only had history with Ejerk and Lucas was nothing to her. Then I said if they ever fire Bryan I'll leave Days for good. And you know what I did. I can't believe they would look at obviously spammed polls and think that viewers wanted Rapemi. The ratings tanked with them and even more so with BD being let go. How could they think those of us disgusted of what this has become would enjoy watching a funny, likable character would be okay with that and accept what they are forcing upon us. Maybe I wouldn't have stopped watching if BD was still on the show, but he's not, he was forced out deemed unworthy of good writing, a s/l and that makes me feel unworthy as well. So Days can go suck it cause I won't watch if this is what I can look forward to. EJ has ruined this show for me and the gag worthy love for him has make an unlikable character ... A hated character.
And now looking to the future if BD is ever brought back I'd watch on the days he was on and maybe I'll be back to loyal viewing if they get rid of EJ or take away all connections to Sami. Rafe doesn't bother me as much as Ej does but if those are my only choices no thanks.
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Thursday Jun 24 2010, 02:20 PM
Isn't it amazing how good the episodes are when you're using established characters with real history, not the retconned crap? Why, it makes people like me, who've watched Days for decades, actually want to tune in. Too bad, so sad for you that as soon as the vets leave on Monday, I'll be tuning out.
You've got that right. I am tuning out and only coming back if changes are made. Sad because I actually enjoyed watching the vets and reminded me of old time. I lost all attention to the show this last week when current story lines were shoved in between. All I could hear was blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Were they talking?
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Thank you Days for bringing back Bryan Dattilo as Lucas Horton!
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yeah...now is the time for patience...and we've had enough over the years so what's a few more months.....lol....Days can't be THAT stupid right?
Now, now, don't underestimate the stupidity of this show. It is truly pathetic and all I can do is shake my head.
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I also think that if they had shown some respect for the fans and for Bryan and given him a kick ass exit, we might have watched (minus rapemi) but what they did was just wrong.
Maybe, but after John and Marlena's exit, not giving Steve and Kayla an exit and then letting go of Bryan; I wouldn't count on it. Frankly I'm surprised they've handled Alice's death so well.
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