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Topic Started: Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:01 PM (2,235 Views)
vhaley
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Why do people say Rafe is boring..I don't get that.
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I was only listening 1/2 way to the Safe scene. My dog refuses to become housebroken and I'm in the process of getting the SMELL out of my dining room carpet since that's her favorite place to "go"
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vicky I think it's his monotone voice...he shows virtually no emotion
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I can't really say exactly what it is that bores me about Rafe. It might just be GG for me, not that he's a bad actor I've just never been able to get into the characters he plays. I was not a Luis fan when Passions was still on the air either. Sometimes you just don't "click" with an actor.
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Oh man I can't believe we're never going to see Horton House ever again. I'm gonna cry again. Mike is doing pretty decently today too.
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Ummm overreact much Kim?
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Why do the Shane/Kim scenes and the Sami/Rafe scenes seem so similar right now???
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They made Luis stupid. Rafe is not stupid but he's got Nadia's delivery--monotone. If he could get over that, I'd probably get more into the character. He's like Brandon for me. I don't see any reason to dislike him just because that's the storyline right now. Rafe is a good guy and his personality isn't bad, but it's hard to get into it when the delivery is always the same. He needs to channel PP maybe 2%


Kim, good bye. so long.

Sami, you are lying.
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Beaker is back tomorrow. Good time to erase the show from my schedule.

Done. Days, you know what you need to do to get me back as a viewer.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:57 PM
They made Luis stupid. Rafe is not stupid but he's got Nadia's delivery--monotone. If he could get over that, I'd probably get more into the character. He's like Brandon for me. I don't see any reason to dislike him just because that's the storyline right now. Rafe is a good guy and his personality isn't bad, but it's hard to get into it when the delivery is always the same. He needs to channel PP maybe 2%


Kim, good bye. so long.

Sami, you are lying.
Erica that's the words I was searching for. It's the monotone. And yes it is like Nadia, very much like Nadia.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:57 PM
Why do the Shane/Kim scenes and the Sami/Rafe scenes seem so similar right now???
They are parallels. Kim and Sami are both angry at their guys for doing what they do. Kim will get back with shane and Sami will get back with Rafe. I won't be here to see it.
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When the actor doesn't have much range, that automatically makes the character boring to me, no matter what his personality is like. Rafe is a nice enough guy and there is nothing wrong with him. But I need more, like an edge. Rafe doesn't have that. Plus like Erica already said, GG's dialogue delivery is very monotone and I'm just not mesmerized. He lacks the charm, humour, fire, and passion that Lucas has. Rafe is basically Brandon, I'll tolerate him but will never fall in love with him. I want Lucas back!!!
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:59 PM
Beaker is back tomorrow. Good time to erase the show from my schedule.

Done. Days, you know what you need to do to get me back as a viewer.
Beaker! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:03 PM
Sami wore a sundress to the funeral?
Yes she did but i guess because it has black on it, its ok? Plus she wore a black sweater on it.

Humm she should have been dressed in all over black.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:10 PM
lol Ally....KA is really looking rather ill...she's so think...
What is with KA, she does look ill :ermm:

She needs to add some pounds to her body, she is way too skinny.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM
Hey Kim, I've got cancer too. You are alive. Deal. No one owes you anything. If you love him, think about why he wasn't there because the man you love would have been. Get over yourself
You have cancer? Sorry to hear :( Don't know you personally but i'm sorry to hear you have cancer.


Kim really do need to get over herself.

He told her he was in jail and she still kicked him out.

I think they'll make it up, love Kim and Shane together
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:25 PM
You know I am not a Safe fan, but even so, I can see this is so a Safe story. They are the rooting couple--for now.
They are the rooting couple, i don't see how ***** can be the rooting couple when Sami is in love w/ Rafe. This is a SAFE story.

I prefer LUMI over any other but still i can see it too that this is a SAFE story
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:51 PM
Why do people say Rafe is boring..I don't get that.
I don't think Rafe is boring, i think he is moving heaven and earth for Sami and this is why Sami wanted him to say he did all this for her. But he didn't.

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Monday Jun 28 2010, 01:54 PM
vicky I think it's his monotone voice...he shows virtually no emotion
hehe i think it's because he doesn't show the facial expressions as Sami do. But i still don't think he is boring, do you?
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Don't feel bad for me. I'm one of the lucky ones with a good prognosis. I just hate the way Kim was pulling the pity card.

Everyone, please refrain from commenting on KA's weight. That's her body, not Hope's. How the character dresses and such is fine for discussion but not their own personal attributes.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 02:37 PM
Don't feel bad for me. I'm one of the lucky ones with a good prognosis. I just hate the way Kim was pulling the pity card.

Everyone, please refrain from commenting on KA's weight. That's her body, not Hope's. How the character dresses and such is fine for discussion but not their own personal attributes.
:) Thanks Erica
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Since no one else will say it, Galen is a bad actor. He isn't a ridiculouos overactor like James but he isn't up to the capacity that Days seems to want for Rafe. He has no emotional range and his delivery is as others have stated monotone and half the time it sounds like he is reading from cue cards. There is no natural flow in his interactions with anyone, everything feels like an actor acting out a scene rather than as if we are watching a brother interact with his sister or a real-life man with his lover, friend, enemy, etc. The scenes with Jennifer and Bill last week, two actors who had never worked together before, are an example of true acting skill - they seemed perfectly natural together, you forgot it was a show for a moment because they seemed like a real father and daughter comforting each other. Galen doesn't have that ability and unfortunately, the same is true for too many of the newer cast members.

The other problem with Rafe is that he has no development as a character. Sure he's done some decent things on the show but why on earth should I care about him. He just showed up one day and has been shoved into one forced scenario after another. The show has done nothing to help me know who Rafe is in more than a year so at this point I just don't care to know him anymore. He just moves from one plot point to another without any human emotion or history. He is written as a one-dimensional stock character but given the airtime that any wise soap would reserve for a well established core character of multiple dimensions and a long, rich history. Rafe has none of that. Days wanted to fast track him into a central role on the show and skipped way too many steps along the way - Rafe is never going to be the new "John Black" in Salem and the sooner Tomlin gets over himself and realizes his mistake the better off Days will be. If they wanted a new generation John Black, here's a thought, how about John's son Brady Black. You know, the character who has ties to the Brady, Kiriakis and DiMera families and who just happens to be portrayed by an attractive yet talented actor.
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I hear you on the scene bit. It is like he's acting in each scene and not thinking about the entire story. I don't necessarily think he's bad--he has potential, but some direction and expression would help. So would thinking about the whole history when you play the scene.
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Monday Jun 28 2010, 02:46 PM
Since no one else will say it, Galen is a bad actor. He isn't a ridiculouos overactor like James but he isn't up to the capacity that Days seems to want for Rafe. He has no emotional range and his delivery is as others have stated monotone and half the time it sounds like he is reading from cue cards. There is no natural flow in his interactions with anyone, everything feels like an actor acting out a scene rather than as if we are watching a brother interact with his sister or a real-life man with his lover, friend, enemy, etc. The scenes with Jennifer and Bill last week, two actors who had never worked together before, are an example of true acting skill - they seemed perfectly natural together, you forgot it was a show for a moment because they seemed like a real father and daughter comforting each other. Galen doesn't have that ability and unfortunately, the same is true for too many of the newer cast members.

The other problem with Rafe is that he has no development as a character. Sure he's done some decent things on the show but why on earth should I care about him. He just showed up one day and has been shoved into one forced scenario after another. The show has done nothing to help me know who Rafe is in more than a year so at this point I just don't care to know him anymore. He just moves from one plot point to another without any human emotion or history. He is written as a one-dimensional stock character but given the airtime that any wise soap would reserve for a well established core character of multiple dimensions and a long, rich history. Rafe has none of that. Days wanted to fast track him into a central role on the show and skipped way too many steps along the way - Rafe is never going to be the new "John Black" in Salem and the sooner Tomlin gets over himself and realizes his mistake the better off Days will be. If they wanted a new generation John Black, here's a thought, how about John's son Brady Black. You know, the character who has ties to the Brady, Kiriakis and DiMera families and who just happens to be portrayed by an attractive yet talented actor.
Thanks Kazz for saying what I didn't want to say...I hope we aren't bordering on actor bashing.....I know Erica would let us know....
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I think that criticism of an actor's abilities are valid as long as they are done respectfully and constructively. Saying someone lacks emotion or is over the top in their delivery is different than saying they suck. With the exception of JS, who has made his attacks on us very personal, I expect you to remember these are people with feelings and we aren't going to try to be rude.
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