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Rafe Fights for His Marriage!

He may have been caught kissing his sister-in-law, but Rafe is determined to make it right with Sami.

"Rafe isn't giving up on his marriage," asserts Galen Gering. "What happened between Rafe and Carrie was an accident. They got caught up in the moment and it was a slight misstep. In Rafe's mind, it certainly isn't worth throwing away their marriage."

In an effort to understand why Sami is having such an extreme reaction, Rafe questions Will. "Will doesn't want to hurt Rafe, so he doesn't tell him the truth," previews Chandler Massey. Mulling the situation over in his head, Rafe ultimately takes full responsibility for the estrangement from Sami and vows to make things right.

Meanwhile, across town, Sami confronts Carrie about her and Rafe's kiss. Tempers flare and the two sisters dredge up old resentments, h urling ugly accusations at each other. Sami demands to know if Carrie has feelings for Rafe, or if there is still bad blood about what happened with Austin years ago. Austin arrives just in time to hear Sami tearing into Carrie. He steps between the two and defends his wife. Sami is shocked to see Austin take Carrie's side.

At the Brady Pub, Rafe shows up with Valentine's Day gifts for Sami's children. "Rafe loves Sami's kids," asserts Galen Gering. "It's very difficult for him to be estranged from his wife and kids. he considers them his family."

Fresh from her spat with Carrie, Sami recoils at the sight of Rafe making nice with the family. With the children out of earshot, Sami demands to know if Rafe has feelings for her sister. Rafe hesitates, completely blowing any chance of a Valentine's reunion. "Sami and Rafe have hit a rough patch," acknowledges Gering. "But he's not throwing in the towel. Rafe understands that, in large part, he's the one who is at fault. Rafe is trying to fix things and, in his mind, he thinks that is possible."

Frustrated by Sami's stubbornness, Rafe sweeps her in his arms for a passionate kiss. "For Rafe, it's an outpouring of love that he's showing Sami," explains the actor. "It's also wanting to show her that he loves her and there is no one else, that he's not in life with his sister-in-law. He's hoping it's one more way that he can win her over."

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Oh please he doesn't even know whats shes done yet and I have a feeling hes going to be mad that Sami wasn't honest with him from the get go and not be understanding about what Sami did and will walk out on her and hes not over Carrie and has feelings for her and his stringing Sami along like this when he wants Carrie is riddiculous and you know hes going to cheat with Carrie some more and not remain faithful and will see Carrie behind Sami's back for hes a complete hypocrite. I hope Sami sees through this and doesn't let him worm his way back in hes going to continue on with Carrie you know he is and I don't see him staying when the truth comes out about what Sami did.

For Sami hasn't told him yet and I still see Sami and rebound roofus breaking up getting a divorce and don't see him staying and when he leaves and we know he will Lucas will be the one who winds up being there for Sami every step of the way after he does and will be the one who winds up comforting Sami.

Roofus/Riff Raff is a hypocrite and I hope Sami doesn't budge on her stance and I'm pretty sure this the last attempt well see and things will get ugly again when the truth comes out and you know it will hes going to walk out on Sami and not be able to see past this that she cheated on him and had sex with another person and will want a divorce and is looking for an excuse to call it off with Sami so he can see Carrie so in my opinion hes a hypocrite.

Sami needs to dump him and divorce him and never look back for she doesn't need this hypocrite who's going to continue on with her sister in her life and she needs to dump him and divorce him and kick him to the curb for he didn't give Sami an answer about Carrie did he so Sami needs to stand her ground on this and kick the hypocrite to the curb and needs to divorce him.

Eww thats disgusting that hes trying to kiss Sami after he kissed Carrie and expects Sami to say alright I'll take you back its alright to kiss all over Carrie and then kiss me afterwards its not going to happen for the rift is there and he didn't answer Sami's question about Carrie and is a complete hypocrite and Sami needs to kick him to the curb and needs to divorce him and never look back. The damage is done and I truly believe that Sami and rebound Riff Raff will truly be over with by the time the truth of what Sami did comes out and don't see him staying and see him walking out on her and leaving Sami where he winds up wanting a divorce and divorces Sami and continues to see Carrie and they will have already broken up by the time Lucas arrives.

I thought I read another interview that said he doesn't take things so well when the truth comes out about what Sami did so I still believe their over with and these are the final moments before their through for good. I've also seen lots of pictures with Roofus and Carrie so you know they will continue on and I truly believe that Riff Raff and Sami are over with and that their done but eww to him trying to kiss Sami after he kissed Carrie moments before for that would make me vomit after it happens as well and maybe this is the thing that makes Sami heave after this happens.
Edited by Lucas is awesome, Thursday Feb 9 2012, 02:04 PM.
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Why do I have a strong suspicion that Rafe will sleep with Carrie and get her pregnant now? I know we speculated on this before but the way they emphasize how Rafe "loves Sami's children", I have a feeling they might go there. Maybe that's what really drew Rafe to Sami in the first place, the kids. Rafe just wants to be a dad and jumped at the chance when he realized Sami came with a brood of kids, lol.

Oh and I notice in this preview it says Austin sides with Carrie. Well there goes the brain cell I thought he had.
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Must say GG got it right when said Sami's kids. So I totally see LUMI in the cards. Just need blood tests again for Johnny and Sidney and all will be grand. :-)
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Thursday Feb 9 2012, 10:13 AM
Must say GG got it right when said Sami's kids. So I totally see LUMI in the cards. Just need blood tests again for Johnny and Sidney and all will be grand. :-)
But did you see he threw in the "his wife and kids" part again. So Rafe does consider them "his" kids still. That's why I want him to get Carrie pregnant so he can finally have is own kid and leave LUMI's kids alone. ;)
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I didn't read it like that the first time thru, as I could have seen him say his wife and THEIR kids. But could readvitvyour way as well. Totally hoping he did not mean that. But I think the more TPTB have them say 'our' the more it will light Lucas' fuse box. ;)
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Rafe is their stepfather, so I don't have an issue with him loving them and thinking of them, especially the twins & Sydney, as his own - that's a good quality in a stepfather.
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I never minded RAfe loving the kids either. I just hated that the old regime tried to erase Lucas' importance and act like he didn't exist or wasn't a good father and replace him. that pissed me off.
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Oh boy, looks like the Salem brain keeps eluding Austin. LOL Oh well. Perhaps he will learn if Carrie does actually sleep with Rafe, which I think is still a huge possibility, but even then he'll probably take her back. All she has to do is put on the waterworks display and say "I'm so sorry", and he takes her back.

As for Rafe, I actually feel a TINY bit sorry for him. He loves children and he is such a good stepfather to Sami's kids. However, Rafe still needs to go find someone else...preferably off my screen. :) LUMI all the way and Johnny being Lucas's son would be the icing on the cake.
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Rafe being a STEPfather is one thing, but I'll never get over Sami giving Rafe credit for raising Will during Will's high school graduation. The whole "our" kid correction made me gag and I saw that as a blatant attack on Lucas. I know that was Tomlin at the time but still, totally rubbed me the wrong way. Rafe can love those kids but he should also realize that they (at least Will & Allie) DO have a loving father who I'm sure is providing for them very well even though he happens to be overseas right now. Anyway, I still want Rafe to get Carrie pregnant so he can go be daddy to that kid once Safe is history. Either that or just kill him off. Anything to get Rafe out of Sami's life and whatever will speed up that process is fine with me. :)
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so I'm thinking that CAFE should sleep together, but around the same time Lucas comes back to Salem. :D Not that I condone cheating in any shape or form, but if it leads to LUMI then I'll deal with it. :D AND THEN, Cafe could have their kid and be offscreen somewhere living happily ever after. :D
Edited by Andi, Thursday Feb 9 2012, 12:19 PM.
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Rafe being a STEPfather one thing, but I'll never get over Sami giving Rafe credit for raising Will during Will's high school graduation. The whole "our" kid correction made me gag and I saw that as a blatant attack on Lucas. I know that was Tomlin at the time but still, totally rubbed me the wrong way. Rafe can love those kids but he should also realize that they (at least Will & Allie) DO have a loving father who I'm sure is providing for them very well even though he happens to be overseas right now. Anyway, I still want Rafe to get Carrie pregnant so he can go be daddy to that kid once Safe is history. Either that or just kill him off. Anything to get Rafe out of Sami's life and whatever will speed up that process is fine with me. :)
I agree with that. Yes, Rafe could be a good step-parent, but I hated how they made Lucas look bad.
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Thursday Feb 9 2012, 12:19 PM
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Thursday Feb 9 2012, 12:16 PM
Rafe being a STEPfather one thing, but I'll never get over Sami giving Rafe credit for raising Will during Will's high school graduation. The whole "our" kid correction made me gag and I saw that as a blatant attack on Lucas. I know that was Tomlin at the time but still, totally rubbed me the wrong way. Rafe can love those kids but he should also realize that they (at least Will & Allie) DO have a loving father who I'm sure is providing for them very well even though he happens to be overseas right now. Anyway, I still want Rafe to get Carrie pregnant so he can go be daddy to that kid once Safe is history. Either that or just kill him off. Anything to get Rafe out of Sami's life and whatever will speed up that process is fine with me. :)
I agree with that. Yes, Rafe could be a good step-parent, but I hated how they made Lucas look bad.
Also the constant money issues that Safe seem to have was just another way to make Rafe look like the noble hero who has stepped in to raise another woman's children because their real dad(s) are deadbeats. I could care less about the rapist but as Lucas is the father to at least half of Sami's children, I take offense to that. Anyway, Rafe is not a monster but he is still a totally contrived and ridiculously propped character who I still have absolutely ZERO interest in to this day. I can't wait until he is out of Sami's life and story once and for all. Could care less what they do with him after that because I know I will FF any and every scene he is in (unless Lucas is unfortunate enough to share the same scene that is.)
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I hate pretty much everything Tomlin did, which is why for the sake of my own sanity, I just pretend it didn't exist. I suggest doing the same.
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I knew Austin would defend Carrie. Man hasn't a clue.
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Oh and that kiss didn't happen by accident.
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if Austin wanted to shock "us" - if he had sided with NEITHER would have been a better option.
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I seen a good share of different tweets and lots of complaining about this and some praising it... but in your guys honest opinion do you think most fans out there want Cafe or Safe. Ive just been reading people saying that people want that... but I just don't see that.
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Thursday Feb 9 2012, 08:49 PM
I seen a good share of different tweets and lots of complaining about this and some praising it... but in your guys honest opinion do you think most fans out there want Cafe or Safe. Ive just been reading people saying that people want that... but I just don't see that.
Well Safe do have their fans and there are possibly some out there that genuinely like Cafe. Then there are those like me that push for Cafe because it gets Rafe away from Sami and leaves room for LUMI to reconnect. Galen Gering fans should support Rafe the character period IMO but I can see how that might be hard since most of his fans who followed him from Passions were handed Safe on a silver platter. Give them Rafe by himself and they're lost, lol.
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Im with you... I just don't want the writers to think that people want SAfe... because IMO Lumi blows them out of the water... It kinda bothers me that I don't see Lucas's name much on Facebook and such. Do you think the general audience would just go along with whatever...cause I think they would and Lumi is great.
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Thursday Feb 9 2012, 09:02 PM
Im with you... I just don't want the writers to think that people want SAfe... because IMO Lumi blows them out of the water... It kinda bothers me that I don't see Lucas's name much on Facebook and such. Do you think the general audience would just go along with whatever...cause I think they would and Lumi is great.
Well I don't know about Facebook cause I'm never on there but I've seen an overwhelming support for LUMI on Twitter. I think the GA would definitely support a LUMI reunion judging by how high the ratings were when LUMI were a couple back in the mid 2000s. If anything, bringing EJ into the picture is what killed the ratings and turned everyone off including the GA. Safe is a "safe" alternative but with Lucas back on the show and apparently without an onscreen love interest since he's engaged to a woman he left in Hong Kong, I would think the appeal of LUMI would be quite favorable to the GA. JMO.
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Safe fans are going to keep liking Safe though I doubt even they know why. I believe that Safe had a lot of GA support at one point, but now I believe a lot of the GA sincerely want Cafe. They see Rafe as a good guy who has been mistreated by Sami and they want him to have a good girl like Carrie. They want Cafe because they are mad at Sami, nothing more. It's like Caustin. The GA wanted Caustin to win out because they were mad at Sami. Sami is the only reason that the GA even notices dull pairings like Caustin or Cafe... but at least Caustin have history, Cafe doesn't even have that going for it. So in short, yes I do believe there is support for Cafe among the GA but it's not the kind of pairing that is going to inspire fan sites or tribute videos. The GA wants them now but when they disappear in a few months, they will be fine with that too....but they will still be of the opinion that Sami doesn't "deserve" Rafe and that they've always liked her better with Lucas anyway.

The subject of the GA's view on Sami/Safe brings up something I feel the need to vent about:

Even the supposed "good Sami" has never been a real hit with the GA. They will say that they like her better than the old one (which is to say the real Sami, the one we as Sami fans have always loved) but they've always sided with Rafe in every disagreement between the two and they've justified Rafe doing things that I consider mistreating Sami, like keeping info about her own kids from her because the GA describes Sami as too irrational to be trusted. Essentially what they are saying is that even when Sami behaves, she is still a 2nd rate character with them - they didn't appreciate Sami as Sami Jean, so let us have our Sami Gene back. I'm okay with the fact that Sami isn't a character that GA likes, she isn't supposed to be liked by most of the audience. Charaters like Carrie and Rafe are supposed to be liked - Sami is supposed be love-to-hate ... and I'm just fine with that. The GA are welcome to their Carries and Rafes and Marlenas and Belles ..... just give us back our Sami already!
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Safe fans are going to keep liking Safe though I doubt even they know why. I believe that Safe had a lot of GA support at one point, but now I believe a lot of the GA sincerely want Cafe. They see Rafe as a good guy who has been mistreated by Sami and they want him to have a good girl like Carrie. They want Cafe because they are mad at Sami, nothing more. It's like Caustin. The GA wanted Caustin to win out because they were mad at Sami. Sami is the only reason that the GA even notices dull pairings like Caustin or Cafe... but at least Caustin have history, Cafe doesn't even have that going for it. So in short, yes I do believe there is support for Cafe among the GA but it's not the kind of pairing that is going to inspire fan sites or tribute videos. The GA wants them now but when they disappear in a few months, they will be fine with that too....but they will still be of the opinion that Sami doesn't "deserve" Rafe and that they've always liked her better with Lucas anyway.

The subject of the GA's view on Sami/Safe brings up something I feel the need to vent about:

Even the supposed "good Sami" has never been a real hit with the GA. They will say that they like her better than the old one (which is to say the real Sami, the one we as Sami fans have always loved) but they've always sided with Rafe in every disagreement between the two and they've justified Rafe doing things that I consider mistreating Sami, like keeping info about her own kids from her because the GA describes Sami as too irrational to be trusted. Essentially what they are saying is that even when Sami behaves, she is still a 2nd rate character with them - they didn't appreciate Sami as Sami Jean, so let us have our Sami Gene back. I'm okay with the fact that Sami isn't a character that GA likes, she isn't supposed to be liked by most of the audience. Charaters like Carrie and Rafe are supposed to be liked - Sami is supposed be love-to-hate ... and I'm just fine with that. The GA are welcome to their Carries and Rafes and Marlenas and Belles ..... just give us back our Sami already!
ITA! And I would argue that characters like Sami Gene are the memorable ones that get the audience talking. Love her or hate her, she's usually the subject of conversation even on the GA boards from what I've noticed. Without her, the Rafes & Carries of the world would be quite forgettable. Cause they do no wrong in their perfect little bubbles, really what is there to talk about? I've noticed on the GA boards that Sami is hated overall but I still think she's the most popular inspite of that, because she's what they talk about, lol.

And I agree, if the GA thinks Sami is not good enough for Rafe then so be it. I don't care cause Rafe makes Sami boring anyway. Give me Sami Gene back and give me my LUMI.
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That's true Kazz that's why I supported Caustin in the 90's. Because I didn't want Sami to win. When they came back in 2006 I just wanted Lumi to stop acting childish and see they were meant for each other. Its funny my sister isn't in a fanbase but she said she found Rafe pretty boring and wondered why they got rid of Lucas.
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Why do I have a strong suspicion that Rafe will sleep with Carrie and get her pregnant now? I know we speculated on this before but the way they emphasize how Rafe "loves Sami's children", I have a feeling they might go there. Maybe that's what really drew Rafe to Sami in the first place, the kids. Rafe just wants to be a dad and jumped at the chance when he realized Sami came with a brood of kids, lol.

Oh and I notice in this preview it says Austin sides with Carrie. Well there goes the brain cell I thought he had.
OMG I was thinking the same thing!!! That he's totally gonna knock Carrie up...maybe the paternity thing will be an issue at first but I definitely think Rafe will be the daddy. The fact that Carrie hasn't conceived yet leaves it open for possibilities!!! Then they can live happily ever after and I can have my LUMI back. I just don't want baggage left from SAFE...Like that he still loves Sami but he's with Carrie cause he's the father of her baby. I want CAFE to have a real love story and for it to be obvious that Lucas and Sami end up together because they're soulmates and belong together.
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