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Topic Started: Monday Feb 20 2012, 04:06 PM (1,622 Views)
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marlena says rafe loves you ,never seen you happier , you love him too,he loves you for who you are
and you said to me he is a man i
wanted my whole life
(smug rafe face )
i dont know what happened but you cant fix it if you dont talk



sami says why do you do this
you always make me out to be the bad guy
mar says history has shown that to be the case
sami says if that is true mommie
dearest i learned it from the best you taught me first hand how to tear a marriage apart
you cheated on daddy walked out

im the one who witnessed it at 15 years old , i had to see that
and you didnt try to

you walked out on him went with john , started a new a family and left us all behind and never looked back
mar says your father moved on
why cant you do the same thing
sami says i bet that would be nice to forget it ever happened
you wouldnt have to face what you did
Mar says i faced my demons
Sami says literally
mar says cute what about you
sami says im looking at them
mar says i dont think so , try looking in the mirror
i will no longer let what happened between john and me be an excuse for your selfish, thoughtless, irresponsible behaviour
its about time you grew up






Mar says its time for you to stop being so selfish, time to take responsibility for your own actions , i know you have
gone thru hell to protect your children , but
rafe loves them and they love him if you hurt him you will be hurting them too
sami says what do i do let it go and accept the fact he has feelings for Carrie , let it go that he cheated on me
is it not possible for you to ever take my side
Mar says im not taking sides
Sami says at least i dont lie to my children
Mar says really
i would like you to take a long hard look at yourself and tell me if you like what you see




Mar says i have many times
and if i could take back what happened i would do it , if i could take back causing you that much pain , i would do it in a moment
but i cant
all you have been thru doesnt give you the right to hurt the people who love you esp. Rafe
he made a mistake, he regrets it and he loves you more than the world but you are so
filled with self pity and rage that you cant see the best thing that ever happened to you is about to walk out that door



Sami says im nothing like you, i would never do to my family what you did
Mar says look what you are doing to Will, dont you see it?
what he is going through right now, dont you recognize it ,the rage the rebellion the lies
it is exactly what you went through and if you werent so selfish you would see that yourself
sami says you know something dont you
Mar says it doesnt matter what i know
what matters is that you fix it
Sami says fix what
Mar says its not my place to say
Sami says tell me what you know and you tell me right now



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Looking forward to this. :)
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Here's one of the biggest WTH moments if I've ever read one Sami has known Lucas most of her life not Rafe and two Sami was cruising on Austin most of her life a man she would never be able to have since when has Sami known Rafe most of her life did she know him in 93 when he came on I don't think so and the person who knows Sami best and loves her for who she is Lucas not Rafe and the person who has know Sami most of her life is Lucas and again Sami didn't know Rafe untill 2009 and still didn't know who he was so this is the biggest WTH moment I read of all time for none of this makes sense none of it and Marlena is talking about Lucas not Rafe and Lucas is the one Sami has known most of her life and Sami doesn't know nothing about Rafe and hasn't known Rafe all her life so again thats the biggest WTH moment I've read about that doesn't make sense and never made sense to begin with and this phrase would pretain more to Lucas not Rafe.

This whole conversation is a one big WTH moment for none of it makes any sense and can we stop pimping Rafe please for I so sick of the Rafe pimping and know that the first part is about Lucas knowing Sami best and loving Sami for who she is not Rafe so enough of the Rafe pimping.

I definately think something is up and don't think Rafe exsists and think the stuff about Austin and Lucas got jumbled up in this mess for none of whats being said in this conversation makes sense none of it and Sami loves Lucas and Lucas loves Sami anyway this the biggest WTH moment of all time in this whole entire convesration and none of these facts are right and haven't been right all along.
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Marlena is the same blind, self-righteous, hypocritical witch she has always been...the fact is that Marlena has never once accepted ANY responsibility for anything in her whole life and she's never expected Carrie or Belle to either - it is only Sami that she thinks should always forgive and forget every wrong done to her. Marlena saying that she won't let her affair with John be "an excuse any longer" is total BS! Marlena never accepted that her behavior had any effect on Sami even when Sami was still a kid. And where is the forgiveness and forgetting of Sami's past?! Marlena and Carrie are still whining about things Sami did 20 years ago yet they expect her to forgive Carrie kissing Rafe immediately. I hate them both .... but the one upside to those two witches returning to Salem is that Sami has been allowed to FINALLY return to Sami!
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^^yes. So glad that Samlena is gone for good.
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Marlena is basically telling Sami, "You're never going to do better than Rafe, so just accept the fact that he thinks Carrie is wonderful and shut up."

I hope this is the LAST time I ever have to hear anyone prop Rafe ever again. The reason I say this is because even if he is propped again, I will for sure be fast forwarding all of his scenes from now on. Once Lucas is back in the picture, I never have to watch GG/Rafe again and for that I am SO thankful. Let Austin & Rafe both worship Saint Carrie together with Saint Marlena cheering them both on. I'll happily take LUMI any day of the week. :)
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what i hate being said

i know you have gone thru hell to protect your children , but
rafe loves them and they love him if you hurt him you will be hurting them too


really sami should stay with rafe because of the kids
Edited by ROSELM, Monday Feb 20 2012, 04:53 PM.
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Does anyone thing that this is all a dream or nightmare of some sort after all and that when someone finally wakes up things will be back to normal for I still think this a dream or nightmare and don't think Rafe exsists and don't think others exsist either and after reading this I definately know something is up now the question is when will things get back to normal and when will things start to make sense once more for none of this makes sense and maybe by the time we get out of wonderland things will make sense once more for none of this stuff makes sense none and after reading this conversation I know something is truly going on and know somethings up and I wish the writers would reveal whatever it is already so things can get back to Normal once more where everyone is acting in character once more and we find out that Sami is still with Lucas,is not a cheater,and is still married to Lucas,and that Rafe and the irrelevant one don't exisist along with a few others.
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I just cannot wait til LUMI is on screen cus it will be Rapist -who?, Austin-who? And definitely Rafe - who and what was I thinking?!
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Sami hasn't been the happiest in her life. Seems like the past few years have been pretty depressing for her.
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Think Marlena was slipped something btwn the Green Wedding (reception) and this epi cus everyone seemed oh so very happy there!!
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I agree that Marlena is essentially telling Sami to just suck it up and stay with Rafe no matter what and yes Rose, it does seem to be "for the sake of the children". It might not be terrible advice in some cases but it is incredibly grating for Marlena to have the nerve to suggest such a thing to Sami. Teen Sami begged Marlena to stay with her father Roman but no way was the almighty Marlena going to sacrifice anything she wanted for Sami. Roman didn't even cheat on Marlena and she would have only had to stay a year or two longer until Sami graduated high school but wouldn't do it. Yet she expects Sami to get over the fact that Rafe cheated with her own sister and to stay in the marriage anyway for the next 15 years or so for her pre-school aged children to keep a step-father that she married barely a year ago.

What's worse is that Marlena knows that Rafe and Carrie have feelings for each other. Sami may suspect it, but Marlena knows it straight from Carrie's own lips. And on top of that, she knows Sami's secret. Marlena knows the marriage is already doomed anyway so why is she not only trying to blame Rafe's and Carrie's behavior on Sami but set up her to lose it all anyway as soon as that info comes out. Marlena has always given Sami the worst possible relationship advice - I remember the witch telling Sami that EJ had changed and she should give him a chance - apparenlty "helping John" makes anyone a "good match" for Sami in Marlena's eyes. Marlena is as dangerous a psychiatrist as a Lexie is a physician.
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Monday Feb 20 2012, 05:27 PM
I agree that Marlena is essentially telling Sami to just suck it up and stay with Rafe no matter what and yes Rose, it does seem to be "for the sake of the children". It might not be terrible advice in some cases but it is incredibly grating for Marlena to have the nerve to suggest such a thing to Sami. Teen Sami begged Marlena to stay with her father Roman but no way was the almighty Marlena going to sacrifice anything she wanted for Sami. Roman didn't even cheat on Marlena and she would have only had to stay a year or two longer until Sami graduated high school but wouldn't do it. Yet she expects Sami to get over the fact that Rafe cheated with her own sister and to stay in the marriage anyway for the next 15 years or so for her pre-school aged children to keep a step-father that she married barely a year ago.

What's worse is that Marlena knows that Rafe and Carrie have feelings for each other. Sami may suspect it, but Marlena knows it straight from Carrie's own lips. And on top of that, she knows Sami's secret. Marlena knows the marriage is already doomed anyway so why is she not only trying to blame Rafe's and Carrie's behavior on Sami but set up her to lose it all anyway as soon as that info comes out. Marlena has always given Sami the worst possible relationship advice - I remember the witch telling Sami that EJ had changed and she should give him a chance - apparenlty "helping John" makes anyone a "good match" for Sami in Marlena's eyes. Marlena is as dangerous a psychiatrist as a Lexie is a physician.
I agree. Basically it's just Marlena thinking Sami can never do any better than a man who will never truly love HER for herself. Marlena knows Rafe has feelings for Carrie but Sami has to live with less than she deserves because who cares about Sami right? At least from Marlena's POV. Marlena had to be with man she loved (John) and to heck with Roman's feelings. And according to Marlena, Carrie has every right to have feelings for Rafe because she can never do wrong, lol. In a way I like that Marlena is pretty much telling Sami that she can't do any better. Cause in a week Lucas will be back in her life. And we all know he was the BEST man for Sami. :)
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It'll be very interesting to see what Marlena has to say when Lucas rolls back into town and the Lumi attraction becomes obvious again. I'm hoping that Marlena warns Sami away from Lucas the way she did in 2003, because the opposite of what Marlena says is almost always the best thing for Sami.
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Monday Feb 20 2012, 05:27 PM
Teen Sami begged Marlena to stay with her father Roman but no way was the almighty Marlena going to sacrifice anything she wanted for Sami. Roman didn't even cheat on Marlena and she would have only had to stay a year or two longer until Sami graduated high school but wouldn't do it.
I agree that Marlena's comments to Sami are ludicrous, inaccurate, and hypocritical, but when did this happen?

Marlena wanted to stay with Roman. She considered her affair to be a mistake. She begged Roman not to divorce her, to stay in town, and to accept Belle as his stepdaughter. She filled a warehouse full of pictures from their life together to try to get him to stay.

Roman left even though Marlena pulled out all the stops (post-affair) to make him stay.

Marlena remained single and beat herself up over losing Roman for several years after that.
Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007
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^^ I'll take your word for it that Marlena did things to keep Roman but I don't remember it. All I remember is Sami wanting her parents to stay together and Roman being determined to leave while Marlena defended her love for John. I also don't remember Marlena ever beating herself up about anything and she never seemed to remain single by choice. It wasn't long between Roman leaving and the start of the devil possession storyline and then John being entangled with Kristin - it never seemed to be a matter of Marlena not choosing to be with John out of guilt to me, just the interference of Stefano and his associates.
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The story went that the devil was able to get into Marlena because she was weakened by her affair with John and the ensuing guilt. And I can't believe I just typed that.
Do you remember what she told him? She took her lover’s hand, and she said, “just because something is intangible doesn't mean that it's not real.” Lucas, no matter what happens, no matter what we’ve been through, no matter what I say, you will always be in my heart. -- Sami Brady, November 2007
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How sure are we that the devil ever left Marlena? Lol
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Lucas hurry home...i want to see rafes and marlenas face when he comes back into her life....
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If Marlena was a mother at all (with her so called Credentials) - you'd think some HELP would have been Sami NOT be this girl you are yelling at today ?!? HMMMM?
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Wasn't Marlena wondering if John had feeling for Hope a few days ago. Didn't John/Hope happen years ago under mind controll. If Sami is suppose to suck it up over Cafe's kiss then Marlena should suck it up too.

So, Rafe, a married man, kissed Carrie, a married woman and Sami's suppose to stick it out with Rafe for the kids....For Lucas and EJ's kids?

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Sami shouldn't have to stick out with a rebound guy who's not the father of her kids and who is kissing another woman who she doesn't love no way no how and Sami kicking this bum out over him kissing Carrie is the correct response Sami is right and Marlena is wrong and shes siding with Carrie over kissing Rafe the guy who's married to Sami and is still siding with Carrie now to continue on with this yet she doesn't care about Sami's feelings or if Sami gets hurt where Sami's response to kick this fool to curb is the right response after all Marlena's opinions mean nothing any more and Sami should just do her own thing and no longer listen to Marlena about rebound roofus and kick him to the curb for Sami doesn't need him and all she needs is Lucas the man she still loves who is her best friend and she should have to put up with this crap and needs to kick roofus to the curb perminently after pulling this crap that roofus and Carrie have pulled together so Sami needs to do her own thing and who cares what Marlena says anymore for her advice this time around stinks and Sami should just go against it and do her own thing and kick roofus to the curb perminently and divorce him and get back together with the father of her kids Lucas once more and work things out with him for Sami doesn't need Roofus in her life all she needs is Lucas and the kids.
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Watching this now. Love Jack in that shade of blue. Really brings out his eyes.

I love Sami's dress, which is funny because when I saw the neckline in some screencaps, I didn't like it at all. Love the tones in Ali's hair. Vast improvement over platinum blonde 2006.
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Austin's got blue on his track suit and Marlena's wearing a blue blouse. So's Jennifer. Interesting.
It's 7:10 according to the clock on Jennifer's mantle. Sami's kids are in school already! What kind of scool are theybin? A military playschool? If theynare, i hope they learn to shoot as well as Lucas.
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I've seen Sami happier. Way happier...

And Rafe loves Sami for exactly who she is????? Rafe only recently met the real Sami, and he didn't like her, at all.
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